TOT vs ATM — Creator Brief

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR

3 — 2

Full Time

ATLÉTICO MADRID

Muani 30' ⚽

Simons 52' ⚽

Porro 57' 🟨

Vicario 58' 🟨

Drăgușin → Udogie 66' 🔄

Romero 70' 🟨

Udogie 72' 🟨

Porro → Bergvall 74' 🔄

Tel → Olusesi 81' 🔄

Gray → Gallagher 81' 🔄

Romero → Danso 81' 🔄

Simons 90' ⚽

📺 7' Lookman

🟨 28' Ruggeri

⚽ 47' Alvarez

🟨 56' Tudor

🟨 56' Lookman

🔄 63' Lookman → Sørloth

🔄 64' Molina → Koke

⚽ 75' Hancko

🔄 84' Griezmann → Baena

🔄 84' Alvarez → González

🔄 87' Simeone → Giménez

🟨 90+2' Sørloth

0.19

Fan Sentiment (−1 negative → +1 positive)

Story Arcs Identified

Live Debates

Executive Summary

Tottenham supporters are finding pride in their team's spirited performance against Atletico Madrid despite crashing out of the Europa League, with many praising the entertaining football and statistical merit of the effort even though the result didn't go their way. The discussion reveals a deeper thread about unconditional loyalty to the club through thick and thin, with fans sharing personal stories about generational support that transcends whether the team wins or loses.

Spurs Fans Celebrate Battling Display Despite Eliminati… European Exit Sparks Relegation Fears and False Pride European Refs Under Fire For Inconsistent Calls Mixed Verdict on Emerging Star's Latest Performance Fans Flip-Flop on Tudor After One Win

The Biggest Story Right Now

Spurs Fans Celebrate Battling Display Despite Elimination

Most Discussed Terms

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Fan Emotion — By Team

TOT Fan Reactions

43.0% Admiration

Admiration 43.0%

Optimism 20.5%

Excitement 15.1%

Joy 11.1%

Desire 10.3%

ATM Fan Reactions

66.7% Annoyance

Annoyance 66.7%

Angry 33.3%

Who's Taking the Heat

fAr — Fan Approval Rating Scale

Crisis0–2

Under Fire2–4

Mixed4–6

Favoured6–8

Hero8–10

Bars and scores show fAr per category, filtered to posts specifically about each team.

TOT

"dof" is taking the most heat

Fans are most negative about dof with 100% of mentions being critical.

fAr: 0.9/10

Big gap between "dof" and "lineup"

5.8 point fAr spread between the most criticised and most praised categories.

dof: 0.9 vs lineup: 6.7

"Guglielmo Vicario" is the lightning rod

"Guglielmo Vicario" (players) is receiving the harshest criticism with 16 mentions.

fAr: 5.0/10

"players" dominates the conversation

80% of all mentions are about players. This is where most of the discussion is focused.

704 mentions

fAr by Category (weighted)

officiating

2.5

dof

3.0

owner

3.2

positions

4.2

manager

4.6

players

4.7

tactics

5.6

lineup

6.2

Not enough data

Team Verdicts

Who's Up, Who's Down

Fan-rated positives and negatives per team. Higher fAr = more positive fan reaction.

Tottenham Hotspur

↑ Best Rated (10)

Lucas Bergvall

player 25 mentions

5.6

"Postmatch thoughts: 1. Decent performance and hard work by most players (not all). You can tell they are not quitting so let’s support and give lots of credit to them. 2. We scored…" reddit
Callum Olusesi

player 24 mentions

5.5

"Petition to keep Olusesi next season, Poch will love him!" reddit
Archie Gray

player 58 mentions

5.5

"Been a long time since I’ve enjoyed watching us like that. And Archie Gray was tremendous." reddit
Luka Vuskovic

player 4 mentions

5.3

"We need to keep hold of Gray, Bergvall and Vuskovic at any cost." reddit
Xavi Simons

player 95 mentions

5.1

"Same, really proud of the fire and we looked like a good team on many occasions (some beautiful attack flow on the first half that I never saw under Thomas Frank), the crowd resona…" reddit
Cristian Romero

player 26 mentions

5.1

"If we stay up I'd be doing whatever it takes to keep VdV. Him, Romero, Danso and Vuskovic is top 4 CB depth, potentially better." reddit
Rio Kyerematen

player 13 mentions

5.1

"I’m impressed the most by his reading of the game. At such a young age it’s instinctual that in his proper position in midfield he seems to be everywhere." reddit
Randal Kolo Muani

player 40 mentions

5.1

"@SpursOfficial Muani played well and awful just like the referee." x
Igor Tudor

manager 65 mentions

5.0

"The players look fitter , kudos to Igor and staff for that , I think if we had Richy playing we would have overturned the defecit" reddit
James Maddison

player 3 mentions

5.0

"Ange or not, I think there was a problem with Frank not drilling enough. And then the lack of 'faith' Tel has in his teammates to be able to be there/score (likely from lack of tra…" reddit

↓ Worst Rated (10)

Mathys Tel

player 103 mentions

3.6

"Should have scored but Tel is balling out in this game" reddit
Pape Matar Sarr

player 28 mentions

4.3

"Id put that more on Sarr for not tracking the runner, but it is a super low percentage goal, pretty unlucky imo" reddit
Radu Drăgușin

player 21 mentions

4.4

"dragusin is actually one of the worst players in tottenham history" reddit
Micky Van De Ven

player 28 mentions

4.5

"@SpursOfficial Van de ven what are you honestly doing as a defender in thag situation..." x
Antonín Kinský

player 32 mentions

4.5

"@SpursOfficial Btw it would have gone to extra time if kinsky didn't slip soo much...." x
Richarlison

player 5 mentions

4.6

"@SpursOfficial @Murtazaball2 Proud of the boys, great performance even without Richy" x
Dominic Solanke

player 3 mentions

4.8

"With all our techy wingers and midfielders he would've been the perfect link-up player. Plus has an insane shot and pacey as well. Would gladly sell both Solanke and Richarlison to…" reddit
Conor Gallagher

player 21 mentions

4.8

"Signing Gallagher when we had Gray ready to go is even more baffling" reddit
Djed Spence

player 33 mentions

4.8

"Spence got caught and gave the ball away to a 2 v 0 break." reddit
Destiny Udogie

player 23 mentions

4.8

"Throw in Udogie too. Udogie fouled, and the commentator was saying it was RKM" reddit

atlético madrid

↑ Best Rated (1)

Diego Simeone

manager 6 mentions

4.8

"Seems like he was just doing what simeone always does." reddit

Events

Positive & Negative Events

Taxonomy-tagged events (actions, goals, fouls, etc.) ranked by fan approval. Click an event to see fan comments.

TOT

↑ Positive Events (1)

Best Team Performance Season

performance

9.3

"Our first win in 2026. Best TEAM performance all season by a country mile. Injury returns is just the cherry on top. First half MOTM: Tel Second half MOTM: Gray Let’s keep this momentum going for the weekend, COYS." reddit

Ratings

Team Sheets & Fan Ratings

Lineups and substitutions from the match. Click any player row to see fan sentiment and quotes. fAr = Fan Approval Rating (0–10).

Player Mentions size = mentions · colour = fan rating

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Player of the Match — Fan Rated

Lucas Bergvall

Tottenham Hotspur Midfielder 25 mentions

6.08

Tottenham Hotspur Home

Muani 5.16

Simons 5.11

Tel 3.42

Gray 5.67

Porro 4.81

Sarr 4.08

Drăgușin 4.04

Romero 5.24

Spence 4.77

Ven 4.27

Vicario 5.03

Atlético Madrid Away

Griezmann

Alvarez

Cardoso

Llorente

Simeone

Lookman

Ruggeri

Molina

Hancko

Normand

Musso

Tottenham Hotspur

Starting XI

▶ 1 Guglielmo Vicario GOA 5.03

▶ 3 Radu Drăgușin ▼66' DEF 4.04

▶ 17 Cristian Romero ▼81' DEF 5.24

▶ 24 Djed Spence DEF 4.77

▶ 37 Micky van de Ven DEF 4.27

▶ 7 Xavi Simons MID 5.11

▶ 11 Mathys Tel ▼81' MID 3.42

▶ 14 Archie Gray ▼81' MID 5.67

▶ 23 Pedro Porro ▼74' MID 4.81

▶ 29 Pape Matar Sarr MID 4.08

▶ 39 Randal Kolo Muani FOR 5.16

Substitutes Used

▶ 13 Destiny Udogie ▲66' DEF 4.78

▶ 15 Lucas Bergvall ▲74' MID 6.08

▶ 4 Kevin Danso ▲81' DEF 5.02

▶ 22 Conor Gallagher ▲81' MID 4.72

▶ 52 Callum Olusesi ▲81' MID 5.94

Unused

▶ 31 Antonín Kinský GOA

▶ 40 Brandon Austin GOA

▶ 76 James Rowswell DEF

▶ 57 Rio Kyerematen MID

Atlético Madrid

Starting XI

▶ 1 Juan Musso GOA

▶ 3 Matteo Ruggeri DEF

▶ 16 Nahuel Molina ▼64' DEF

▶ 17 Dávid Hancko DEF

▶ 24 Robin Le Normand DEF

▶ 5 Johnny Cardoso MID

▶ 14 Marcos Llorente MID

▶ 20 Giuliano Simeone ▼87' MID

▶ 22 Ademola Lookman ▼63' MID

▶ 7 Antoine Griezmann ▼84' FOR

▶ 19 Julián Alvarez ▼84' FOR

Substitutes Used

▶ 9 Alexander Sørloth ▲63' FOR

▶ 6 Koke ▲64' MID

▶ 10 Álex Baena ▲84' MID

▶ 23 Nico González ▲84' FOR

▶ 2 José María Giménez ▲87' DEF

Unused

▶ 31 Salvador Esquivel GOA

▶ 33 Mario de Luis GOA

▶ 15 Clément Lenglet DEF

▶ 18 Marc Pubill DEF

▶ 11 Thiago Almada MID

▶ 21 Obed Vargas MID

▶ 34 Julio Díaz MID

Fan-Rated Best XI 4-3-3

Muani TOT 5.16

Bergvall TOT 6.08

Olusesi TOT 5.94

Gray TOT 5.67

Simons TOT 5.11

Porro TOT 4.81

Romero TOT 5.24

Danso TOT 5.02

Udogie TOT 4.78

Spence TOT 4.77

Vicario TOT 5.03

Officials

Referee & VAR

Fan verdict on officiating. Scored 1–10 based on post sentiment towards officials.

Referee Performance 6.6 / 10

Based on 1967 mentions

VAR 4.2 / 10

Based on 47 mentions

Fan Verdicts

Who Got Blamed, Who Got Sympathy, Who Got Credit

Based on how fans grammatically framed each player in their posts — not just whether mentions were positive or negative, but what role they assigned them in the story.

TOT

Blamed

Named as the cause of something that went wrong.

Mathys Tel 4×

Igor Tudor 3×

Antonín Kinský 2×

Sympathy

On the receiving end — fouled, dropped, let down.

Xavi Simons 3×

Credit

Who benefited or made the difference.

No clear credit signal

ATM

Blamed

Named as the cause of something that went wrong.

No clear blame signal

Sympathy

On the receiving end — fouled, dropped, let down.

No clear victim signal

Credit

Who benefited or made the difference.

No clear credit signal

How these roles work

Blamed (Causer)

Fans named this player as the direct cause of a negative outcome. Examples: "Maguire gave away the penalty", "Ten Hag's formation cost us". Scores are amplified when the causer is blamed clearly.

Sympathy (Victim)

This player was on the receiving end of something — a foul, a bad decision, being dropped, or let down by teammates. Fans feel for them rather than against them.

Credit (Beneficiary)

Fans gave this player clear credit for a positive outcome — a goal, an assist, a key moment. Includes players who enabled something good to happen. This is the co-winner of a match moment.

Debate Fuel

The Big Arguments

Top debates happening in fan comments right now. Each one is a question your video could answer — or a fight you could referee.

Spurs Fans Divided Over Refereeing Decisions And Match Quality

99 mentions

Controversy

10/10

For · 37%

Decision was correct / justified

"@AlasdairGold Totally agree one of the best performances of the season players together #COYS bring on Forest"

Against · 32%

Decision was wrong / controversial

"@SpursOfficial all of you who rate Spence — its ur fault the standards in the club fell to the fucking floor. what a terrible footballer"

European Exit Sparks Relegation Fears and False Pride

502 mentions

Controversy

8/10

For · 59%

Fans in support

"So so proud of the team!! I was there last night and the support from the fans were amazing!!!!!"

Against · 19%

Fans against

"Very poor from dad.. our best game all season and doesn't support the lads till the end? Poor from dad..."

Spurs Fans Celebrate Battling Display Despite Elimination

1533 mentions

Controversy

8/10

For · 50%

Player is performing well / praised by fans

"@SpursOfficial Fantastic performance.. The best game I've watched this season #COYS"

Against · 19%

Player is underperforming / criticised by fans

"@SpursOfficial What a shitty cheating load of bastards Madrid are. Fowling, time wasting, dark arts football. ArseAnal would be proud of them."

Fans Flip-Flop on Tudor After One Win

138 mentions

Controversy

8/10

For · 44%

Tactical approach is flawed / questionable

"I hate Thomas Frank more than anyone else who ever managed us. The only one out of the lot of them whose hand I wouldn’t even shake. Fuck him."

Against · 22%

Tactical approach is working / smart

"@SpursOfficial This is how good we are and with more guys coming off the injury list, we can definitely get even better. First win under Tudor, onward we move! #COYS"

Tottenham Fans Divided on Tel's Controversial Pass

47 mentions

Controversy

7/10

For · 40%

Mixed opinions

"@SpursOfficial Tel is so frustrating to watch, he never passes, loses the ball and always kicks straight at the keeper 🤬"

Against · 23%

Decision was correct / justified

"@SpursOfficial Superb first half!! Tel is a monster! This guy has the IT factor for sure https://t.co/cAdZ9uij5K"

Spurs Fans Celebrate Grit Amid European Exit

127 mentions

Controversy

7/10

For · 41%

Mixed opinions

"@SpursOfficial Unbelievable! One fucking minute to undo all that hard work! Spurs will never change! https://t.co/nL3XpLolKp"

Against · 37%

Player is performing well / praised by fans

"@SpursOfficial My god it's Tottenham Hotspur! Finally. Bravo! #coys https://t.co/MIK03DRnhW"

Xavi Simons Earns Redemption Through Pressure Performance

113 mentions

Controversy

7/10

For · 43%

Fans in support

"xavi was phenomenal, glad to see he is preforming in big games"

Against · 17%

Fans against

"@SpursOfficial That didn’t last long, will never rate Xavi Simons … lightweight af"

Tel's Shooting Decision Divides the Fanbase

30 mentions

Controversy

6/10

For · 46%

Mixed opinions

"@AlasdairGold That right there is why Tel cannot be a regular starter at this level, shameful decision making"

Against · 20%

Fans in support

"Tel has been playing so well today "

Fan Questions

What Fans Are Asking

Real questions fans are asking in the comments. Use these as YouTube community posts, end-of-video polls, or pinned comments to boost engagement.

I usually hate it when fans do a 180 on their opinion of a manager after a run of 2 matches, but Tudor has really made us play good football we should definitely stick with him at least until the end of the season

General 9 fans asking this

4/10

Oh gotcha I was wondering what he meant by 2 defenders so thanks

General 5 fans asking this

4/10

Agree when he doesn't have time to think hes a good keeper

General 2 fans asking this

4/10

And? Plenty of players got back. If that was a fair challenge on Xavi thats just shit defending.

General 3 fans asking this

4/10

Why? This season is down to Frank being a fucking fraud and our best players being injured all the time. I see no reason why we can’t push for European spots next season with Vuskovic coming in and a competent manager, so long as we can avoid relegation.

Player Performance 1 fans asking this

4/10

He is morphing onto Romero?

Player Performance 2 fans asking this

4/10

Signing Gallagher when we had Gray ready to go is even more baffling

Player Performance 2 fans asking this

4/10

@AlasdairGold surely that is djed Spence's man ali, be fair?

Player Performance 2 fans asking this

4/10

What are you talking about? People were legitimately calling Tel dumb etc for not passing the ball lol

General 2 fans asking this

4/10

Did you mean cheater? Flopped like a fish in the first leg, kicked through Xavi here.

Player Performance 2 fans asking this

4/10

Archie gray man, what a gem

General 3 fans asking this

4/10

Didn't realize Madrid was Spurs home?

General 3 fans asking this

4/10

The thing what struck me was the speed of the build up. All season we've been so slow in the final third that it gives teams time to get players behind the ball and the attack fizzles out. Tonight we passing it much quicker and more directso we were much more a threat going forward. Hardly seen that at all under Frank. It was all just crosses and fuck all else. MOTM, can't decide between Gray Xavi or Tel.

Match Context 3 fans asking this

4/10

Why? Fuckers should have disallowed the Alvarez goal for a foul on Xavi to begin the whole move. Add that to the first leg's Alvarez dive and the amount of Atleti fouls not called- he has reason to fuck them off.

Player Performance 1 fans asking this

4/10

We all saw just how bad TF was and it is a disgrace the board kept him as long as they did. Should have been sacked at least six weeks earlier.

Player Performance 1 fans asking this

4/10

What won us the game was Atletico winning the first leg.

General 1 fans asking this

4/10

And the cunts who didn't sack him after the first NLD

General 1 fans asking this

4/10

Anyone know why Tudor took off into the tunnel immediately after the whistle?

Player Performance 2 fans asking this

4/10

@SpursOfficial What is Tel still doing there

Player Performance 2 fans asking this

4/10

Who’s fighting for Europa League? Not Forest

General 2 fans asking this

4/10

Story Arcs

The Bigger Picture

The narratives running through this match — not just what happened, but what it means. These are the longer-form angles a creator can build a series around.

📝 Editorial Topics 🤔 Captivating Talking Points 🔄 Algorithm Inversion 🗣️ Fan Narratives 🔦 Spotlight

Editorial Topics

🤩 Best performance this season?

Editorial

Players turned on from minute 1 with full intensity!

🔑 Sarr and Gray

Editorial

Keeping them fit and playing is key to staying up? If not what is?

📆 49 days!

Editorial

For the first time in 49 days, Tottenham have won a competitive match. We win a game but we still lose.

👀 Where have this Tottenham team been?

Editorial

Finally playing good football.

💪 Dared and Did

Editorial

Fans and players felt together.

Captivating Talking Points

That should have been a second Spurs goal. Great work from Archie Gray and he picks out Kolo Muani, who feeds Xavi and the Dutchman flicks it first time into Tel's path but the winger hits his shot at the keeper. Lovely football. https://t.co/SHVaiDIHGg

11.64 broadcast callout high specificity ▲ 129

29 and 39 can be genuinely tough to distinguish at a glance on the broadcast tbf. You're not wrong overall though, it's a real problem

10.35 factual contradiction broadcast callout ▲ 11

Genuinely split: 51% believers, 49% challengers. Both sides have a case.

14 accepted · 13 challenged · 92 unclear

Challenger We actually won a fucking game of football. The connection between the players and the fans defo here today in the stadium. Literally just what we needed before Sunday Damage was done by like 26th minute of the first l…

Believer @SpursOfficial Before anyone starts bitching, this has been a brilliant resilient performance from us Atletico are right near the top of their table whilst we're fighting relegation in ours. But weve really put in a shi…

Yeh feel Kinsky is getting too much shit for it in hindsight. Everyone was slipping. Only one that was actually is fault imo is that third one where he passed it but his head was gone from letting in the first two and one could’ve happened to any keeper on that shity grass and the second most keeper struggle to save one on ones.

9.49 factual contradiction high specificity ▲ 12

Genuinely split: 34% believers, 66% challengers. Both sides have a case.

12 accepted · 23 challenged · 116 unclear

Believer Igor Tudor on how important it was for Spurs to stop getting used to losing: "I agree. That's why I was a little bit angry at the counter attack with nine men at the very end [in the final seconds] but I understand the p…

It’s unreal. I usually fall back on everyone gets fucked at some point and it more or less evens out. But this season feels like we are always on the wrong side of every call

6.9 factual contradiction ▲ 232

Strong majority (71%) accepted the claim. Only 11 comment(s) pushed back — a minority voice worth highlighting.

28 accepted · 11 challenged · 216 unclear

Challenger It’s unreal. I usually fall back on everyone gets fucked at some point and it more or less evens out. But this season feels like we are always on the wrong side of every call

Believer May be the best we’ve played all season, bring this energy the rest of the schedule and we’ll definitely stay up

Algorithm Inversion

3002 posts scored — 7 hidden gems, 7 algo-amplified

◆ Hidden Gems — Buried by the Algorithm

@SpursOfficial So much better fight last couple games, have to credit the players. Getting out of Europe is a positive given the reality of a relegation battle but good to see the players actually giving a shit

+0.644 x factual contradiction length sweet spot

@SpursOfficial This team is capable of achieving and tonight proved it i honestly do not know what went wrong this season

+0.627 x factual contradiction length sweet spot

@SpursOfficial Actually enjoyed watching the team put in an effort finally! Gray was superb again.

+0.61 x factual contradiction length sweet spot

@AlasdairGold Atlético players dove many times in both legs amd foul was given but when there is actually a foul for us, play on play on🤡

+0.515 x ▲ 1 factual contradiction length sweet spot

I think he’s actually way more selfish than Timo, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Timo was usually less inclined to take a shot himself than he was to pass if given the option, at least when he played for us. Tel is hungrier. I imagine his decision making will improve as he grows.

+0.502 reddit ▲ 1 factual contradiction length sweet spot

The original is actually a pic called "Bust Down Keanu" which is AI generated. Since then, it's been used as a popular meme with faceswaps.

+0.485 reddit ▲ 1 factual contradiction length sweet spot

It is a foul. Everyone with eyes can see its a foul. People are trying to argue that it's shoulder to shoulder which is objectively false. There's no attempt to play the ball and every attempt to essentially barge Xavi over, which he's successful in doing.

+0.4 reddit ▲ 1 factual contradiction length sweet spot

◆ Algo-Amplified — Boosted Without Substance

If one pays attention, this is a very common problem with commentators in the English speaking world; black players get confused for each other sooooo much more often. There's actually some interesting sociological research to suggest that people are better at distinguishing minute feature differences amongst people who look more like themselves;…

-0.763 reddit ▲ 153

If I remember correctly, majority of our fanbase was calling for kinsky to be playing ahead of vicario. So not really on the manager fault for finally caving to our request

-0.681 reddit ▲ 25

Commentators tonight ![gif](giphy|26DN0yMxjDnfTBOHC)

-0.588 reddit ▲ 76

Yep. Players you hope will perform at least when the chance arises, did (Tel, Simons, RKM). Players you know can perform at least did also in moments that mattered (Romero, Spence, VDV). If only Porro's outside of the boot shot had gone in. One of two big team goal chances. Still, proud of that performance.

-0.573 reddit ▲ 19

Another Tel shot at the keeper after Dragusin pokes the ball his way. https://t.co/SHVaiDIHGg

-0.533 x ▲ 29

When did archie get any hate? This year he has been our pots and last year he was playing as a cb and still gave his all. He is a captain in the making

-0.502 reddit ▲ 17

Atletico score. Vicario tips over an Alvarez free-kick but from the corner David Hancko gets in front of Sarr to nod home a header. https://t.co/SHVaiDIHGg

-0.458 x ▲ 24

◆ Broke Through — Quality That Beat the Algorithm

0.0 x ▲ 129

29 and 39 can be genuinely tough to distinguish at a glance on the broadcast tbf. You're not wrong overall though, it's a real problem

0.386 reddit ▲ 11

0.332 reddit ▲ 12

It’s unreal. I usually fall back on everyone gets fucked at some point and it more or less evens out. But this season feels like we are always on the wrong side of every call

-0.051 reddit ▲ 232

I love this sub. It’s not just start to compete but cook. This morning it was 90% doom and gloom. I know this game is emotional for people but this sub (the internet at large) is the 1% of every spectrum.

0.037 reddit ▲ 77

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Fan Narratives

Spurs Fans Celebrate Battling Display Despite Elimination

Emerging Controversial

European Exit Sparks Relegation Fears and False Pride

Emerging Controversial

Fans are bitterly divided over their team's elimination from a European competition despite winning the final home leg, with some clinging to the individual victory whilst others acknowledge the aggregate defeat and pivot focus to a desperate fight against relegation. The mood is darkly comedic—oscillating between frustration at past trophy droughts and gallows humour about imminent league troubles, suggesting a fanbase watching their season unravel across multiple fronts.

European Refs Under Fire For Inconsistent Calls

Emerging

Fans are furious about what they perceive as blatantly poor refereeing decisions across European matches, with particular frustration over controversial yellow and red cards, questionable fouls, and suspicions that diving went unpunished whilst legitimate contact was heavily penalised. The consensus is that officiating has been so inconsistent it's actively decided matches, with Atletico Madrid specifically called out for benefiting from dodgy decisions.

Mixed Verdict on Emerging Star's Latest Performance

Emerging

Fans are debating a player's inconsistent display—praising his exceptional moments and overall improvement whilst criticising a crucial decision-making lapse late in the match. The conversation reflects cautious optimism about his development, with supporters acknowledging his potential despite continued questions about his consistency in the Premier League.

Fans Flip-Flop on Tudor After One Win

Emerging Controversial

Supporters are calling out the fanbase's reactive nature after the team's victory, noting how quickly opinion swung from demanding the manager's sacking to backing him completely. The discussion highlights a broader frustration with inconsistent fan behaviour that changes week-to-week based on results, rather than sustained analysis of performance.

Spurs Fans Celebrate Grit Amid European Exit

Emerging Controversial

Tottenham supporters are acknowledging a mixed bag — their side has crashed out of European competition but are showing improved character and individual performances that suggest something positive is being rebuilt. The discussion balances frustration with bottled opportunities against cautious optimism about the team's trajectory and standout displays like Son's stunning goal.

Xavi Simons Earns Redemption Through Pressure Performance

Controversial

Fans are largely impressed with Xavi Simons's display in the match, particularly his composure under pressure and his two-goal contribution, with many admitting they'd underestimated him and now backing him as a key player for next season. The discussion centres on his character—rallying the crowd despite the result—and his potential alongside young talents like Archie and Tel, though some remain critical of broader tactical issues.

Spurs Fans Divided Over Refereeing Decisions And Match Quality

Emerging Controversial

Tottenham supporters are debating a controversial match involving questionable refereeing calls (particularly around a tackle by Rugbee that went unpunished) whilst also praising individual performances like Alvarez's quality play. The discourse reflects frustration with officiating standards and wider questions about whether recent matches have genuinely entertained them.

Fans React to Controversial Match Moment

Emerging

Arsenal supporters are locked in a heated row over a contentious incident from a match they didn't all witness, with some defending the player involved whilst others dish out brutal criticism. The debate's descended into typical online chaos—personal insults flying, accusations of fickleness, and dark humour about memes replacing genuine football discussion.

Archie Gray Puts On A Masterclass Display

Fans are absolutely raving about Archie Gray's performance, with supporters united in praise for his all-action display and his seemingly effortless involvement in everything positive the team produced. The consensus is crystal clear—this was the performance that officially announced him as a player ready to shoulder serious responsibility at this level.

Debate Over Greedy Shot In Close Defeat

Fans are divided over a player's decision to shoot instead of pass late in a match that ended in a narrow aggregate loss, with some defending it as a 50-50 call that could've gone either way, whilst others argue it was a costly mistake the youngster will learn from. The discussion reveals typical match-day frustration mixed with recognition of the player's overall positive contributions throughout the game.

Refs Blasted as Commentators Fuel Fan Fury

Fans are absolutely seething over a combination of poor refereeing decisions and, crucially, a commentator's repeated mistakes—including misidentifying players by name—which they're viewing as careless and disrespectful. The commentary error (naming the wrong player for a foul) has wound supporters up even more than the ref's decisions, with some calling out the broadcaster for lack of professionalism and accountability.

Tottenham Fans Divided on Tel's Controversial Pass

Controversial

Spurs supporters are split over a crucial pass or shot decision by Tel during a recent match, with some praising his attacking intent and match-winning potential whilst others criticise his decision-making and finishing. The debate exposes broader disagreement among the fanbase about whether Tel deserves backing as a future legend or represents a frustrating inconsistency in the team's play.

Tottenham Fans Rage Over Referee Decisions

Spurs supporters are venting intense frustration at what they perceive as poor officiating that cost their side in a match, with many expressing anger across multiple languages whilst others attempt to stay pragmatic about focusing on Premier League priorities. The discussion spans from outright criticism of the referee's performance to calls for the team to move forward and concentrate on more important competition matters.

Spurs Fans React to Controversial Official Tweet

Emerging

Tottenham's official Twitter account posted something that's drawn ridicule and mockery from supporters, who are calling out the club for poor timing or tone-deaf messaging during a match. The overwhelming response is laughter and disbelief, suggesting the tweet has become a focal point of fan frustration rather than engagement.

Tel's Shooting Decision Divides the Fanbase

Controversial

Fans are locked in debate over whether Tel made the right call by shooting instead of passing during a crucial first-half chance that could've swung the match. Opinion splits between those who respect his confidence and finishing instinct versus those who think a cutback to teammates would've been the smarter play.

Spurs Fans Chase Comeback Magic at the Lane

Tottenham supporters are buzzing about the possibility of a dramatic Remontada—a stunning second-half comeback—with some joking they'd see a three-goal turnaround and penalty win, though the mood shifts as the comeback hopes fade. The discussion captures that rollercoaster of hope and despair that defines big European nights, with fans oscillating between belief and resignation as the match unfolds.

Spurs Fans Rage at Referee's Inconsistent Foul Decisions

Tottenham supporters are fuming over what they believe was a clear foul missed in the build-up to a goal that should have been ruled out, with fans convinced the referee applied wildly inconsistent standards throughout the match — allowing shoulder charges against Spurs whilst penalising the slightest contact on opposition players. The overwhelming narrative is one of victimisation, with fans arguing Spurs are systematically disadvantaged by officiating compared to other teams.

Spotlight Topics

Referee & VAR Discussion

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Xavi wins the penalty and slots it into the bottom corner to put us back ahead on the night. ⚪ 3-2 🔵 (Agg 5-7) ▲ 1033

Penalty to Spurs! ▲ 740

@SpursOfficial Beaten by the slippy pitch last week. If we complain to CAF, we may get it overturned by October. ▲ 680

Pundit & Commentary Reaction

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The Spurs players are applauded off at the break. My first half Tottenham player ratings are now in our live match blog below. https://t.co/SHVaiDIHGg ▲ 108

Match Moments

The Emotional Arc

Fan emotion over the course of the match — where the joy peaked, where the frustration spiked. Based on post volume and sentiment over time.

Peaks = positive · Dips = frustration ⚽ Goal/Pen 🟨 Yellow 🟥 Red 🟨🟥 2nd Yellow ❌ Missed pen 📺 VAR

📺 VAR · Ademola Lookman · 7' · ATM 4 reactions

"Lookman has the ball in the net but it's offside. https://t.co/SHVaiDIHGg"

"Lookman's punch on Dragusin as well. It's a clear red. Imagine if Romero did that"

"@the_antimod @AlasdairGold If any player on Tottenham hit someone like lookman it would genuinely be a 10 season ban"

"Objectively a great performance. But I'd be lying if I said that, despite having no hope, I don't leave disappointed. Namely because so many of their goals were absolute jokes. 3 in the first leg were as a direct result of slips. The 4th was blatant cheating with an Alvarez dive. One of theirs tonight was a blatant foul. The luck just wasn't with us, and that's in spite of one of our goals being an Oblak error yet it still doesn't equate. Both teams could have had someone sent off. Us with van de Ven, them with whatever the fuck that Lookman swipe was. Battled well. Actually played well post-Kinsky last week. 3 encouraging performances back-to-back (or maybe 2 and a half). Biggest thing from tonight is that the hoodoo of not winning at home for so long going into the weekend has been nerfed. Referee was appalling, as is the standard."

🟨 Yellow Card · Matteo Ruggeri · 28' · ATM

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⚽ Goal · Randal Kolo Muani · 30' · TOT 5 reactions

"@fifi_august @SpursOfficial A Spurs remontada here? Down 3-5 agg after Kolo Muani's 30' header (1-0 on night), they need 3+ goals with no reply from Atleti to advance. 60+ mins left + home roar helps, but Simeone's parked bus + Oblak make it a miracle job. Realistic odds: ~15%. Football miracles exist though (see Barca '17). Gunner verdict? 😏 COYS or nah?"

"Randal Kolo Muani scores! Mathys Tel picks out his compatriot with a terrific cross from the right and he heads into the bottom left corner of the net. https://t.co/SHVaiDIHGg"

"That should have been a second Spurs goal. Great work from Archie Gray and he picks out Kolo Muani, who feeds Xavi and the Dutchman flicks it first time into Tel's path but the winger hits his shot at the keeper. Lovely football. https://t.co/SHVaiDIHGg"

"@SpursOfficial @SpursStadium 🎶Muani je opasan kada je mesec mlad...🎶"

"@SpursOfficial WHAT A GOAL!!! Beautiful pass by Tel 🔝 🔝 🔝 COYS!!!"

⚽ Goal · Julián Alvarez · 47' · ATM 5 reactions

"Alvarez scores. Xavi is knocked over as he goes to shoot at one end and Atletico break and the former City man rockets an effort into the top left corner. There's a brief VAR check but nothing given to Spurs. https://t.co/SHVaiDIHGg"

"Goal for Atletico Madrid. ⚪ 1-1 🔵 (Agg 3-6)"

"@SpursOfficial So Porro does the same thing to Alvarez and it’s a free kick now it’s not 😭"

"@AlasdairGold Shocking defending from Dragusin and Spence there. Alvarez was the 1 player in the box and no one thought to mark him"

"@AlasdairGold But Alvarez gets a "foul" for the free kick in the first game."

⚽ Goal · Xavi Simons · 52' · TOT 5 reactions

"@SpursOfficial 52' Xavi Simons Tottenham [2] - 1 Atletico Madrid👀👀"

"@SpursOfficial “Xavi” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You wish! Think you mean Simons!"

"That's the Simons we've wanted to see all season"

"Wasn't even looking to win the ball, just wanted to stop Simons."

"@SpursOfficial Soon he’ll be scoring superb goals against Lincoln 😭"

🟨 Yellow Card · Igor Tudor · 56' · ATM 5 reactions

"@SpursOfficial TudorBall Champions League Kolo is a different player."

"@SpursOfficial I'm sure some "fans" still want Tudor gone"

"@SpursOfficial Angeball is back 🥳 Thomas Frank tried to wash it out of the players DNA, but Igor Tudor has untangled the mess, picked up the broken pieces & in the process found the players missing bollox! Might be too late for this game,but if we get a positive result,it will do them🌍of good"

"@AlasdairGold I don’t understand why Igor Tudor is still sticking with a back three when we clearly need goals. He should take off one defender and bring on a midfielder so the team can be more attacking."

"@ProTottenham @SpursOfficial Yep! Given me hope after this performance. Credit to Tudor and the boys. Players look happier and a better team shape and tactics."

🟨 Yellow Card · Ademola Lookman · 56' · ATM 4 reactions

"Lookman has the ball in the net but it's offside. https://t.co/SHVaiDIHGg"

"Lookman's punch on Dragusin as well. It's a clear red. Imagine if Romero did that"

"@the_antimod @AlasdairGold If any player on Tottenham hit someone like lookman it would genuinely be a 10 season ban"

🟨 Yellow Card · Pedro Porro · 57' · TOT 5 reactions

"Should have been another Spurs goal. Xavi sets up Porro but his effort inside the box with the outside of his right foot is pushed away well by Musso. Dragusin's header from the ensuing corner is held by the keeper. https://t.co/SHVaiDIHGg"

"Looks like a 4-4-2 with Dragusin as the right-back and Porro and Xavi as wingers with Kolo Muani and Tel up front. I think we'll see Xavi and Tel swapping places throughout."

"@AlasdairGold Surely we should try VDV at LB and Spence RB and Porro RM"

"@TonyFitz @AlasdairGold Its because out of possession porro becomes a RWB i believe so its 5atb sometimes"

"gotta square it but he's been our best player for some weeks now (along with porro, gray) and he's literally 20 years old. not gonna get mad at him over it"

🟨 Yellow Card · Guglielmo Vicario · 58' · TOT 5 reactions

"What a save from Vicario. He reacts so well to Simeone's shot as it deflects off Romero. https://t.co/SHVaiDIHGg"

"I don’t want to hear any more negativity about Vicario, that was an amazing save. "

"@SpursOfficial If we go on to win this, then I just want to apologise to Vicario https://t.co/4m4GlbdubJ"

"@SpursOfficial Bro if only Tel had squared 😓, outrageous save from Vicario"

"Capable of brilliance but it’s outweighed but large chunks of ineptitude. You pay £14m you get Vicario. You pay £27m you get Raya."

🔄 Substitution · Alexander Sørloth · 63' · ATM 5 reactions

"@SpursOfficial An excellent strike. We've got some confidence back."

"@ThatGuyCovah @SpursOfficial you’re commenting under every post get some bitches"

"Good flair player. Let’s see until end of season if his price was well worth it. So far, he needs to deliver in these big games like he is DOING NOW…"

"@SpursOfficial What a performance, I don’t care if we go through or not, it’s all about the performance and building from the Liverpool draw all for Sunday against Forest and the run in #COYS #THFC"

"@SpursOfficial Helt vanvittig at vi e to mål bak over 2 legs as"

🔄 Substitution · Koke · 64' · ATM 5 reactions

"Good flair player. Let’s see until end of season if his price was well worth it. So far, he needs to deliver in these big games like he is DOING NOW…"

"@SpursOfficial Helt vanvittig at vi e to mål bak over 2 legs as"

"@SpursOfficial And we were being told we could expect no better than 0.08 xG against the likes of Brentford and Sunderland"

"He's 21 in a month. Still young but far from a teenage lad. Not making that pass absolutely changes the game."

🔄 Substitution · Destiny Udogie · 66' · TOT 5 reactions

"@SpursOfficial If only we had a decent keeper and deffence"

"@SpursOfficial I love what I see. I wish we played with this level of desperation at all times."

"I think he’s actually way more selfish than Timo, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Timo was usually less inclined to take a shot himself than he was to pass if given the option, at least when he played for us. Tel is hungrier. I imagine his decision making will improve as he grows."

"@AlasdairGold hes been the worst player on the pitch lol"

"@Pochettino_1972 @Chukwuyemi_10 @SpursOfficial Check the tables lil bro don't talk to us you're literally nobodies"

🟨 Yellow Card · Cristian Romero · 70' · TOT 5 reactions

"What a save from Vicario. He reacts so well to Simeone's shot as it deflects off Romero. https://t.co/SHVaiDIHGg"

"They've started shooting low xg shots now that they can't get past our defence, Romero VdV have been brilliant"

"@AlasdairGold Definitely 5 at the back. Draguisin is playing in between Romero and VDV."

"@SpursOfficial Whatever happens we need Romero & micky next season. I don’t care if he’s scored or not, xavi simons is a liability!"

"Lookman's punch on Dragusin as well. It's a clear red. Imagine if Romero did that"

🟨 Yellow Card · Destiny Udogie · 72' · TOT 5 reactions

"@SpursOfficial Udogie on Spence off. Bergvall on Dragusin off"

"Destiny Udogie comes on for Radu Dragusin, who has put in a good shift tonight. https://t.co/SHVaiDIHGg"

"@SpursOfficial Future looks positive. Players look united Udogie and Bergvall back. More players to return soon. No other competition for us to focus on. Forest still in Europa league. (Hope they win tomorrow, more fixtures!) Relegation chances look to be decreasing each week. COYS."

"Just happy to see some fight and players actually trying. Keep this energy for Forest and I think we're in good shape. Great to see Bergvall and Udogie back!! Still 100% in the Champions League at home btw"

"@AlasdairGold Outstanding performance. My player ratings: Vicario - 8 Romero - 8 VDV - 8 Porro - 8 Spence - 7 Dragusin - 6 Gray - 9 Sarr - 7 Xavi - 9 Muani - 8 Tel - 7 Danso - 8 Bergvall - 7 Olusesi - 7 Udogie - 7"

🔄 Substitution · Lucas Bergvall · 74' · TOT 5 reactions

"@AlasdairGold Smallest crowd for our best performance of the season by a country mile 😂"

"Archie has been consistent. Really loving him. I went to the Newcastle game, before Odobert got injured he was playing these amazing long passes and getting the outlet to Odobert and doing really well under pressure. Ended up scoring too, he was one of the bright lights in a string of dismal performances."

"@SpursOfficial Get in Xavi!!!! The crowd need to do better btw. Way too passive!!! No wonder the lads keep asking them for more noise"

"@SpursOfficial Not cutting my hair until spurs can win a half of football ⚽️ https://t.co/FQjMHVtv4R"

"@SpursOfficial Game over. We’ve been so good but don’t deserve to draw or lose"

⚽ Goal · Dávid Hancko · 75' · ATM 5 reactions

"Atletico score. Vicario tips over an Alvarez free-kick but from the corner David Hancko gets in front of Sarr to nod home a header. https://t.co/SHVaiDIHGg"

"Atletico Madrid score. ⚪ 2-2 🔵 (Agg 4-7)"

"@SpursOfficial Get in Xavi!!!! The crowd need to do better btw. Way too passive!!! No wonder the lads keep asking them for more noise"

"@SpursOfficial YOU GUYS CANT LET THEM SCORE A HEADER LIKE THIS CMON"

"@SpursOfficial Congratulations to Atl. Madrid!!! The performance is what counts and I think we should be satisfied!!! They gave everything on the pitch 👏👏 COYS!!!"

🔄 Substitution · Callum Olusesi · 81' · TOT 5 reactions

"Come on man this is clearly shoulder to shoulder contact "

"@SpursOfficial First of all wasn’t a foul that led to the corner. Joke from this ref how many times this game he has blown against us for no reason"

"@SpursOfficial Whatever happens we need Romero & micky next season. I don’t care if he’s scored or not, xavi simons is a liability!"

"@psyfo_t @SpursOfficial Tell has been immense tonight! Idk what game u been watching!"

"@SpursOfficial You must be dreaming if you thought you could beat Atletico Madrid 😭 https://t.co/kYxTuV0wXI"

🔄 Substitution · Conor Gallagher · 81' · TOT 5 reactions

"Come on man this is clearly shoulder to shoulder contact "

"@SpursOfficial First of all wasn’t a foul that led to the corner. Joke from this ref how many times this game he has blown against us for no reason"

"@SpursOfficial Whatever happens we need Romero & micky next season. I don’t care if he’s scored or not, xavi simons is a liability!"

"@psyfo_t @SpursOfficial Tell has been immense tonight! Idk what game u been watching!"

"@SpursOfficial You must be dreaming if you thought you could beat Atletico Madrid 😭 https://t.co/kYxTuV0wXI"

🔄 Substitution · Kevin Danso · 81' · TOT 5 reactions

"Come on man this is clearly shoulder to shoulder contact "

"@SpursOfficial First of all wasn’t a foul that led to the corner. Joke from this ref how many times this game he has blown against us for no reason"

"@SpursOfficial Whatever happens we need Romero & micky next season. I don’t care if he’s scored or not, xavi simons is a liability!"

"@psyfo_t @SpursOfficial Tell has been immense tonight! Idk what game u been watching!"

"@SpursOfficial You must be dreaming if you thought you could beat Atletico Madrid 😭 https://t.co/kYxTuV0wXI"

🔄 Substitution · Álex Baena · 84' · ATM 5 reactions

"It’s unreal. I usually fall back on everyone gets fucked at some point and it more or less evens out. But this season feels like we are always on the wrong side of every call"

"As always: The defense was pathetic. But thank god we've found momentum in the offense. No way we go down if we keep that drive forward. "

"@SpursOfficial Please bring this energy forward to this weekend and we will destroy Forest"

"@SpursOfficial We’ve had welcome back tweets for these two like 3 times before we’ve even had a single one for Maddison and Deki…"

🔄 Substitution · Nico González · 84' · ATM 5 reactions

"It’s unreal. I usually fall back on everyone gets fucked at some point and it more or less evens out. But this season feels like we are always on the wrong side of every call"

"As always: The defense was pathetic. But thank god we've found momentum in the offense. No way we go down if we keep that drive forward. "

"@SpursOfficial Please bring this energy forward to this weekend and we will destroy Forest"

"@SpursOfficial We’ve had welcome back tweets for these two like 3 times before we’ve even had a single one for Maddison and Deki…"

🔄 Substitution · José María Giménez · 87' · ATM 5 reactions

"Absolutely. It gives this team belief and that's a huge win for us at the moment. The intangibles in this sport are massive. Belief can't be bought or sold. Only the players can step up and actually pull something together. "

"We all saw just how bad TF was and it is a disgrace the board kept him as long as they did. Should have been sacked at least six weeks earlier. "

"Even though we lost the tie I couldn’t be prouder of your boys, more progressive passes than the rest of the season combined, really went for it for the whole game didn’t let their heads drop, played some absolutely beautiful football at points."

"Sort yourself out. He's got an assist tonight and has been one of our best players. Even the beset players make mistakes."

"@stfc4lyf @FPL_Dynamo @SpursOfficial And won the second half v Liverpool immediately before that."

⚽ Penalty · Xavi Simons · 90' · TOT 5 reactions

"Xavi clips in the penalty off the inside of the left-hand post. 3-2 to Spurs on the night. https://t.co/SHVaiDIHGg"

"If the player stepped across simons and was actually playing the ball/shielding it, then I'd agree. But he didn't at all here, no attempt to play the ball, just obstructs his opponent, clear foul."

"Xavi wins the penalty and slots it into the bottom corner to put us back ahead on the night. ⚪ 3-2 🔵 (Agg 5-7)"

"@SpursOfficial SIMONS! To refer to him as Xavi is blasphemy"

"I dont remember us having a penalty. I mean, who is our penalty taker post Kane?"

🟨 Yellow Card · Alexander Sørloth · 90+2' · ATM

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Captivating Quotes

Straight From the Fans

The best fan quotes from this match — the funny, the sharp, the viral. These are ready to use in your video, in subtitles, or as thumbnails.

"Should have called Arteta on tips to win 4-0 against Atletico in north london"

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"Idk about you but we ain't getting relegated. And get a European trophy first, it's about fucking time"

Fan

"Flexing being 37th best team in Europe and winning a Mickey mouse European trophies lol 🤣 win a league first and then chat shit. Last time you won the league was before color television and humans landed on the moon ffs"

Fan

"We didn’t lose. We won. Although I get what you mean. We were still eliminated. I’m not just being pedantic here for the sake of it. That’s the first game we’ve won in ages. And we need that to continue (not start) against Forest."

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"You guys did well tonight. Over the tie you actually had higher expected goals than they did. You should be proud of your team. You may yet go down, but you can remember this night as a proud one in spurs history. You got more expected goals over two legs than the 3rd best team in Spain. I couldn’t do that."

Fan

"And the silver lining is that now we can fully focus on not getting relegated. And we don’t have to play that mean Barca side. "

Fan

"Yes I forgot about that. Frick me on that eh. It’s that 80th minute goal from Oh. Might be rough considering they aren’t playing at home. It’ll be rough… Wood might not start either which will be a low for them.."

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"I'm not sure you understand the limitations of a fan's power. Let's be clear here, the person who put Kinsky in goal was Viccario. You don't lose your spot unless YOU'RE the problem. He's the problem. "

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"mate if he had saved the free kick vs liverpool we would of won. Vicario makes some great saves, he has in all his time at spurs. But he just makes so many mistakes, which this season have cost us on several occasions"

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"Agree when he doesn't have time to think hes a good keeper "

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The posts that sparked the most replies — these are your conversation starters and debate topics.

640 replies · 18% of posts · Medium engagement · Mixed

"Easy to get caught up in the “what ifs” from the first leg, but really proud of how the squad showed up today. Huge improvement and something to build on heading into such a crucial few weeks in the p"

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Same, really proud of the fire and we looked like a good team on many occasions (some beautiful attack flow on the first half that I never saw under Thomas Frank), the crowd resonated with what was show on the pitch. I'm happy that it seems that Tudor is able to reach the lads and get their confidence back. If the team plays like that the rest of the way, we won't go down. And best display from Xavi with us easily, looked really good. +

There's no what if lol, Atletico took their foot off the gas when they were up 3-0 We were never winning this tie −

There’s enough what ifs from this game , Simmons was fouled before their fist goal , if tel had passed to Archie , Gallagher foul would have been a pen if it was against us…. Fact is it’s the best we’ve played all season , feel we were robbed by the ref , team did amazing … so fucking proud of them , first win of the year COYSSSS +

I loved the intensity today from everyone. It feels like we’ve turned a corner. +

↳ And my god, we could string together passes! +

We’re gonna be alright. 8 more of these - we’ll be alright. +

Probably the best performance I have seen this season. Everyone was turned on from minute 1 itself with full intensity. +

We won a game, we played well, the fans are with the players right now. Keep up the vibes and we’ve got this on Sunday! I’m dying until I’m Tottenham, or something. +

Its genuinely unbelievable that this team is in a relegation squabble I never wanna hear the "Players are not good enough" argument −

↳ If the players were as good as you make them to be, we wouldn’t be near relegation. You really think coach can manage ability away from players? It’s more that players can overperform in singular matches, which it has looked like this season (and last season). They are mentality midgets that only thrive when they can think that they are “meant to lose”. −

"We need to keep hold of Gray, Bergvall and Vuskovic at any cost. "

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I remember watching Vuskovic playing in pre season. Thinking he might play for us soon. Then we loaned him out, and now there’s talks of his departure. Like what.

↳ If he leaves, he will be the most expensive defender ever 100mil +.

I would upgrade that to include Tel and Moore, probably Souza too

↳ And Sarr! We really need a young striker too. I don’t think Scarlett or Lankshear is that guy unfortunately. −

↳ Lankshear has looked good. Would like to see Scarlett get a decent run somewhere. I still think he has potential. We also just signed Melia - the Irish kid. You probably forgot because he was injured on arrival and has since vanished... +

↳ These players will all be sold for a profit, which is nice given our recent history, but none of them will be at the levels of the other players we are discussing.

↳ Archie's younger brother is a striker. I've solved the problem!

They’re the whole club homegrown strategy, so they’ll be expensive to pry away. Club homegrown senior players crucial now for squad size in European campaigns.

↳ Apparently Vuskovic might not count toward HG, as the "loan out while still registered in PL" trick doesn't work with all leagues. Regardless we need to keep him anyway.

↳ People have shit on Lange because his short term strategy haves been nothing short of abysmal but it’s important to remember that we’re building for the medium to long term and these guys are a core part of that process.

"If one pays attention, this is a very common problem with commentators in the English speaking world; black players get confused for each other sooooo much more often. There's actually some interest"

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I remember Ian Darke saying he had this problem so he always noted what color boots everyone was wearing. At least some commentators try.

It’s not actually technically racist, not that you called it that. We’re predisposed to notice defining features of the people we’ve spent the most time around in our lives. As a Caucasian, I could drive by a black coworker walking down a street but notice someone I know from the gym 2 seconds later! If I grew up in Africa, it would be the opposite. We are predisposed That being said, there’s 20 players for the commentator to call out and it’s their job. Do better

Yeah the cross race effect is real. If you belong to a group like a university or a club you also recognize those people easier. So for us spurs fans we know the differences but these white announcers don’t. Reallly need more diversity in the commentators box.

I thought it was pretty beyond the pale when he messed up three black players in a row, but then he called some bald white guy Arne Slot so it’s all good now −

While it's true that it is common, even in a lot of cases where players don't look alike. Sarr and Kolo Muani genuinely look very similar from afar and that's OK.

↳ Sarr's skinnier and moves differently. After you've watched these guys for awhile, gait is actually the easiest way to differentiate between players after looks.

At least Sarr and RKM are 29 and 39, I guess if you just saw the 9. But they're also so different in build and gait. I noticed the commentator getting them confused at least three times.

29 and 39 can be genuinely tough to distinguish at a glance on the broadcast tbf. You're not wrong overall though, it's a real problem −

If this wasn't their entire job in life, I wouldn't be triggered at all, but it's literally all they gonna do in life, and English commentators, out of all commentators in the world, speak much less in matches than the rest, predominantly Spanish and Arabic where commentators never shut up during the 90 minutes. −

Pretty sure that was the main reason Sissoko did the wrist tape, so his family (iirc his grandma) could spot him easily

"Gotta square it there"

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The square is a better decision but shooting is not a bad choice here. He's close enough that most of the time it's a goal. Didn't get the right connection obviously. Most important is to be decisive, and he was decisive at least. Sometimes people screw up that square too (the defender isn't that far away so it needs to be played with some pace, and you risk it a bit with pace of over hitting it or putting a slight bounce on the ball)

You mean X surely? If he presses square it's over the bar.

↳ Double tap square

↳ That's a triangle situation imo −

↳ It's an X all day long! There's no room for a triangle. Too close to the goalkeeper! −

↳ I agree with you, butIf I do x in that play, the game makes the pass right into the defenders, less chance the triangle goes to the keeper imo, but it's really not up to me in the end, the game is all powerful

↳ Praise be to the algorithm! +

↳ I'd have triangled that one −

↳ I’ve been playing with alternate controls since the PES days

↳ Right? Press square to shoot. Circle is a cross.

"Its sad to go out. But whats not sad is our performance. We did ourselves proud today. This is the type of fire I want to see for the remainder of the season. Give us this football and we'll be safe."

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Yeah we should’ve signed him when he left City.

So why haven't they been playing this way every other game?? They've literally just shown they can do it. Have they not wanted to?? −

↳ ![gif](giphy|ti98I4f9Mhdba)

Alvarez is so good, he was everywhere and did everything +

Did you mean cheater? Flopped like a fish in the first leg, kicked through Xavi here. −

We needed to go out, but we did it in style. +

↳ Yeah it’ll be nice not playing two games every week with our depleted squad. Always sad to go out of a cup, especially the CL, but at least we can focus on staying in PL now and less minutes in the legs. −

Showed why he was 75 million euros or whatever it was , thought we kept griezman quite

↳ Greizmann is like 40

May be the best we’ve played all season, bring this energy the rest of the schedule and we’ll definitely stay up +