EPL manager discourse MW1 → MW34

How often fans talk about each Premier League manager — and how they feel when they do. Taxonomy from data/teams.json's manager key (full name + nickname aliases per club) matched with word-boundary regex across every post and reply in 2,890,140 Reddit, X/Twitter and YouTube comments. Every matching post scored by VADER (a lexicon + grammar sentiment model tuned for social-media text) on a −1…+1 compound axis: ≥+0.05 positive, ≤−0.05 negative, in-between neutral. Net sentiment = pos% − neg%.
2,890,140
Posts scanned
Arne Slot
Most talked about
34,499 mentions
Andoni Iraola
Most positive net
+29.3 pos% − neg%
Rob Edwards
Most negative net
-45.9 pos% − neg%
SlotArtetaCarrickHoweGuardiolaRoseniorMoyesNunoEmeryFarkeGlasnerIraolaZerbiHürzelerParkerSilvaAndrewsEdwardsPereiraBris

Ranking — all managers

Posts = total mentions across matchweeks (word-boundary match on any alias). Distribution shows how positive / neutral / negative those mentions were, scored by VADER. Sorted by volume.
#ManagerClubPostsPosNeuNegNetDistribution
1 Arne Slot LIV Liverpool 34,499 35.2% 27.8% 36.9% -1.7
2 Mikel Arteta ARS Arsenal 24,374 39.7% 22.4% 37.9% +1.8
3 Michael Carrick MUN Manchester United 12,766 48.1% 23.5% 28.4% +19.6
4 Eddie Howe NEW Newcastle 12,154 38.6% 24.6% 36.8% +1.8
5 Pep Guardiola MCI Manchester City 9,926 46.0% 22.5% 31.5% +14.5
6 Liam Rosenior CHE Chelsea 6,295 36.7% 28.7% 34.6% +2.1
7 David Moyes EVE Everton 4,464 47.1% 20.5% 32.5% +14.6
8 Nuno WHU West Ham 4,159 45.2% 21.7% 33.1% +12.0
9 Unai Emery AVL Aston Villa 4,117 45.9% 20.2% 33.9% +12.0
10 Daniel Farke LEE Leeds 3,973 48.4% 17.3% 34.3% +14.1
11 Oliver Glasner CRY Crystal Palace 1,663 45.8% 24.5% 29.7% +16.1
12 Andoni Iraola BOU Bournemouth 947 52.2% 24.9% 22.9% +29.3
13 Roberto De Zerbi TOT Tottenham 836 43.3% 26.0% 30.7% +12.6
14 Fabian Hürzeler BHA Brighton 735 42.7% 22.0% 35.2% +7.5
15 Scott Parker BUR Burnley 285 45.3% 27.0% 27.7% +17.5
16 Marco Alexandre Saraiva Da Silva FUL Fulham 273 45.8% 27.1% 27.1% +18.7
17 Keith Andrews BRE Brentford 249 52.2% 19.7% 28.1% +24.1
18 Rob Edwards WOL Wolves 209 25.4% 3.3% 71.3% -45.9
19 Vítor Pereira NFO Nottingham Forest 177 39.0% 32.2% 28.8% +10.2
20 Régis Le Bris SUN Sunderland 140 47.1% 26.4% 26.4% +20.7

Volume of the conversation per matchweek

Raw mention count per matchweek for the top 8 most-discussed managers. Peaks reveal controversy weeks — appointments, sackings, crisis defeats or title races.

Net sentiment per matchweek

Net = % positive − % negative within each manager's mentions for that matchweek. Only matchweeks with ≥20 mentions shown, so noise from low-volume weeks is hidden.
positive (≥ +0.05) negative (≤ −0.05) neutral

Top 10 most-mentioned

Managers ranked by total mentions across the season. % is share of all manager-mentioning posts.
#ManagerPosts%
1 Arne Slot 34,499 28.2%
2 Mikel Arteta 24,374 19.9%
3 Michael Carrick 12,766 10.4%
4 Eddie Howe 12,154 9.9%
5 Pep Guardiola 9,926 8.1%
6 Liam Rosenior 6,295 5.1%
7 David Moyes 4,464 3.7%
8 Nuno 4,159 3.4%
9 Unai Emery 4,117 3.4%
10 Daniel Farke 3,973 3.3%

Most positive net sentiment

Top 10 managers by (pos% − neg%). Min 200 posts to exclude tiny samples. Higher = fans are celebrating more than criticising.
#ManagerPostsNetDistribution
1 Andoni Iraola BOU 947 +29.3
2 Keith Andrews BRE 249 +24.1
3 Michael Carrick MUN 12,766 +19.6
4 Marco Alexandre Saraiva Da Silva FUL 273 +18.7
5 Scott Parker BUR 285 +17.5
6 Oliver Glasner CRY 1,663 +16.1
7 David Moyes EVE 4,464 +14.6
8 Pep Guardiola MCI 9,926 +14.5
9 Daniel Farke LEE 3,973 +14.1
10 Roberto De Zerbi TOT 836 +12.6

Most negative net sentiment

Bottom 10 managers by (pos% − neg%). Min 200 posts. Lower = fans are piling on more than praising.
#ManagerPostsNetDistribution
1 Rob Edwards WOL 209 -45.9
2 Arne Slot LIV 34,499 -1.7
3 Mikel Arteta ARS 24,374 1.8
4 Eddie Howe NEW 12,154 1.8
5 Liam Rosenior CHE 6,295 2.1
6 Fabian Hürzeler BHA 735 7.5
7 Unai Emery AVL 4,117 12.0
8 Nuno WHU 4,159 12.0
9 Roberto De Zerbi TOT 836 12.6
10 Daniel Farke LEE 3,973 14.1

Methodology

Aliases come from teams.json → each team's manager key. Matches use case-insensitive word boundaries so "referee" won't match a manager alias.

Sentiment: VADER compound score of the whole post. Good at short, punctuation-heavy social text, weaker on long structured prose. Score buckets: ≥+0.05 positive, ≤−0.05 negative, in between neutral.

Known limitation: a sarcastic "Moyes is a genius 🤡" still scores positive; VADER has no sarcasm detection. Long match reviews can score positive overall even when ripping a manager apart.

Scope: posts + replies from every merged.json under output/raw/EPL/*/*/.
Most positive / most negative posts per manager

Arne Slot LIV

Liverpool — 34,499 posts · avg VADER -0.011 · net -1.7
slot 32,573 · arne 4,208 · arne slot 2,170
Most positive
  • MW23 · BOULIV+1.00at the start, you could see wirtz and salah/gakpo desperately trying to connect, but they think for an extra two seconds before making a decision. salah’s body has given out, too.

    we dribble nicely and gracefully play in their final third, which is really good. isn't a good manager supposed to do the job of telling players when to go for it and get aggressive instead of walking around with the ball like a goat straying from its herd? you also should tell them, "hey, no tavernier, kluivert, or adams; swing for the fences, and we will go punch for punch and we can outscore them." good coaches tell their players when to go for the jugular. why pass backwards when you have space and open players to make a forward play or a drive into the final third?

    slot's football is too gentlemanly and respectful. it is like we will win with good etiquette and proper poise. no sudden movements lest we startle defenders.

    no attacking players have a clue what they need to do in the final third. they forget football once in the final third. i do not think their roles are assigned tactically by the coaching staff. who should be crossing most and when, who is given the playmaking risks, who is taking ...
  • MW4 · ARSNFO+1.00Honestly its amazing that it doesnt even feel like Salibas out with how solid defensively Gabi & Mosquera have been. To have your first start also be in one of the most difficult away stadiums against the reigning champions and to just slot right in is hugely impressive. It shows he doesnt just possess the talent & skills but also the intelligence, discipline, and overall ability to read the game.

    Its hard to say which signing had been the "best" & ultimately just the fact that they are all performing well is great. I really can't think of a signing who just immediately shined since maybe Tierney or Sanchez. The fact all the new signings are performing is a great sign for the clubs overall "health". It means players are happy to be here, are embracing the competition, and feel like part of the team and Arsenal overall. You cld really see it with Madueke this weekend. He faced unfair criticism about his signing but obviously Arteta & the staff showed their belief in him and it has shown on the pitch. He is playing with confidence, and the fans were singing his name at the end of the game.

    Eze played well and showed glimpses of his quality and will only improve. He has already ex...
  • MW24 · TOTMCI+1.00@foxernator Credit for using honest inflation figures, I'll just quibble with a few things. You'd have to look to "relative spending power": if Manager A spent £60,000 on a player in the 60s whereas his rival Manager B could only spend £20,000, inflation doesn't capture that A's spending power was 200% greater relative to B, whereas in the 21st-century, Manger A spending £150m compared to Manager B spending £100m is a seemingly enormous disparity of £50m compared to a "measly" £40k, but the relative spending power is 50%, not 200%.

    Even as early as 1996, Man Utd had 50% more revenue than Barcelona (in second-place financially) and Arsenal barely had half what Man Utd were generating, to the point where they were having to sell players like Overmars and Anelka to fund the construction of their training ground! It's apples-and-oranges to compare Pep and Ferguson, even with inflation; you have to compare how much relative spending power they had over second-place relative to their era; Pep's best years were when Man Utd had higher/comparable wage-bills and transfers and even Liverpool had similar revenue and fairly close wage-bills - I'll qualify that below.


    And no one was near Man...
  • MW4 · ARSNFO+1.00Honestly at the end of the day it was a tight game where u cld see the quality of both teams. I wld say neither teams created too many top chances and ultimately it was the type of game that was going to require something extraordinary to break the deadlock. Liverpool got that with an absolute wonder strike.

    After the game I wasn't even mad. Disappointed sure but I fealt Arsenal did neutralize Liverpool very well. An absolute cracker of a free kick beat us. You just have to live with that and respect the quality. No keeper is saving that and truly all I cld do was give the man a round of applause. Absolutely beautiful goal.

    With all that said I think both teams proved their quality but even more so their tactical prowess and discipline. It wasnt an end to end open match. It was like a game of chess. Both teams were disciplined in preventing counters, limiting mistakes, and not leaving open space for the opposition. It really was a game a neutral or non footy fan wld have called "boring". I think to both teams fans and serious football fans we recognized the sheer quality of both squads. These are 2 of the best teams in the world with very complete squads. From Keeper to defense...
  • MW30 · LIVTOT+1.00I’ve avoided being Slot out all season long but been worn down match by match. I just can’t with it anymore. The players need to cop some responsibility for sure but the system and the tactics are not working.

    Wirtz is our best playmaker but somehow keeps finding himself isolated as the furthest man forward in the box. He needs to take more shots on than he does and that is a him thing, but he shouldn’t be pressed so high when he is the one meant to be pulling strings.

    Szobo is a CM, not a RB. Yes, he can play on the right, and yes, our top two RBs have been injured; i don’t care. Put your game-winning players in positions where they can win the game. And that is not at RB. Gomez is more than suited for the role, or hell fucking trust Ramsey at some point. Now that Frimpong is healthy and good to go it needs to be him or Gomez every match at RB, and let Dom loose in midfield. Hell if you want you can even play Dom wide right instead of Salah, just get him closer to goal and take away his tracking back responsibilities that have him trying to cover too much of the pitch at once.

    Ekitike had a good run of form earlier in the season but is clearly still too raw. Idk what he was on ...
Most negative
  • MW29 · WOLLIV-1.00I feel like that missed pass at the end from Mo is like the litmus test for how people discuss him and the rest of our attack.

    His only two genuine opportunities tonight came from an opposition error (which he did very well to score from) and then his own hustle (which he did very poorly to mess up) - the last time he scored a PL goal was the EXACT same story: gifted by Emi Martinez.

    Listen, Mo should have done better, I agree with you all, but he’s a high volume attacker and always has been. Tonight is not the first time we’ve seen Mo mess up an easy chance but score a much harder one.

    The difference is that Mo isn’t a high volume attacker anymore. He isn’t even a medium volume attacker. He’s a low volume attacker, limited to opposition errors, chances created by his own footwork and virtually nothing created in open play for him bar the occasional chance that we all magnify him missing because it looks worse when Salah misses a chance during a goal drought than when he’s actually bagging.

    Since November, Salah has 2 goals from 3.10xG in 11 PL games. That’s actually a pretty reasonable return when you realise that *Salah’s only season at Liverpool outperforming his xG was last...
  • MW15 · LEELIV-1.00He's anything BUT prolific. The useless clown throws so much shit at the wall that some of it sticks. He tries the same worthless cutting inside so many times that he gets a goal after trying that useless trick for four matches and then rinses and repeats. He's absolutely horrible. To say nothing of all the Kerkez overlaps he very seemingly deliberately wastes because it appears he seems to have something personal against Kerkez, because he never does that shit with Robbo. The fact that Slot is starting him constantly despite this is very telling of his atrocious management. This whole season he's killed attack after attack after attack with his horrible decision making.
  • MW31 · BHALIV-0.992-1. Danny fucking Welbeck with both.

    What the fuck am I meant to do with that on a Saturday.

    I’ve just watched Liverpool stroll into Brighton like a team full of substitute teachers and leave with the aura of a burst carrier bag. You know when you can feel a match going wrong in your bones? Not tactically. Spiritually. Like the universe itself is leaning over and whispering, “you’re about to watch some absolute bollocks here, lad.” That was this. Ninety minutes of creeping, poisonous inevitability.

    Slot had better not tell me we “controlled large parts” of the game. Controlled what? My blood pressure? Brighton ran further than us, wanted it more, and generally behaved like a football team, which already put them at a massive advantage over whatever haunted collection of wet wipes we put out there.

    I’m meant to sit here, in my own house, in my own clothes, and accept that Liverpool Football Club have just made Danny Welbeck look like he was carved in a lab from bits of peak Shearer, Van Basten and divine punishment. The first goal goes in and you think, “annoying.” The second goes in and suddenly I’m staring into the middle distance like a war survivor. My tea’s gone cold. The ...
  • MW19 · LIVLEE-0.99Oh I remember the Low Blocks under Klopp, they were tough, but we still tried to break them down. We put a lot more effort in then than what we are now. I'm sure VVD, Curtis, Mo, Robbo, and Konate remember the Low Blocks. I also remember us managing to grind out some unbelievably hard fought results AGAINST said Low Blocks, both having to fight from behind AND to take crucial wins. The big difference was the INTENSITY we played with made all the difference because we persisted and persisted relentlessly and tried mixing things up. With Slot, he could face a Low Block for 3 straight games and I'd be convinced we'd get 3 points at MOST out of them, because he doesn't know how to adapt his gameplay. He's rigid, he's stubborn, and he's biased. He picks favourites who buy into his "style" and chooses them no matter their form, and makes no effort to reintroduce players who make one mistake (Quansah, Elliott, Morton, Chiesa, Endo, McConnell to name all those from last season) unless we're absolutely threadbare squadwise (Which we are now), and even then he's reluctant to do so.


    With Klopp, we were exciting, even unpredictable at times. But even when we lost, we at least looked liked we...
  • MW3 · LIVARS-0.99I swear down, this was football versus fucking war crimes against football. Slot's lot, even at half tilt, went out there with intent, energy, hunger. Arsenal? Arteta has absolutely butchered them. It’s not a football team anymore.

    I’ve never seen a team so terrified of their own shadow. Sideways, backwards, sideways, backwards. Rinse and repeat until your eyes bleed. It's cowardice. It's a manager who has brainwashed 11 talented players into playing like interns too scared to step out of line. It’s like watching 90 minutes of a fucking fire drill.

    And then, as always, they bottle it. Szoboszlai steps up, slams in a free kick, and Arsenal are suddenly thinking oh shit, maybe we’re meant to attack. Too fucking late. By then everyone knows the script: Arsenal have no fight, no spark, no identity, no bollocks. Just a joyless spreadsheet of patterns drilled into them until they suffocate the sport itself.

    Arteta on the touchline screaming like a lunatic, micromanaging every pass, every movement - for what? To turn Arsenal into the most boring, lifeless, soulless football club in the country. He’s strangled all creativity, all freedom, all joy, and for what? To choke in big games, ag...

Mikel Arteta ARS

Arsenal — 24,374 posts · avg VADER +0.015 · net +1.8
arteta 24,374 · mikel arteta 458
Most positive
  • MW23 · ARSMUN+1.00@Bradley_0701 I’m sorry, but you’re delusional. European trophies does not play “a massive role” in how big a club is, sure - it adds prestige, history, and bragging rights, making it play a role, but it is not the main factor that decides how big a club is. It’s an add-on - not the foundation. A club becomes big mainly through fanbase, money, domestic success, history, and cultural impact. They just boost what’s already there. Also, Tottenham don’t have an “immense” history in Europe, they only won a few major UEFA trophies (1 Cup Winners cup) (2 UEFA Cups), which is respectable, but it’s not huge. When compared to other English clubs, like Liverpool, Chelsea, Nottingham Forest, their European trophy count is much smaller, in other words, they are overshadowed. By your logic, because European success plays a massive role in the size of a club, Nottingham Forest is bigger than Tottenham Hotspur, which is clearly not true. Their European trophies are important, not immense. Arsenal is not a “little,” small club, even you know that. And a trophy can factually still be a European trophy even if UEFA does not recognise it. A UEFA recognition decides whether it is an official UEFA troph...
  • MW14 · ARSBRE+1.00Rice is our midfield No.1 imo. First name on the team sheet for me. Plays the most important role and as strong as we are in depth, norgaard isn't an equal replacement.

    God forbid but if Rice was to get injured then the comfort I have is that everything I've watched Merino drop back into midfield this season to partner Zubi either to allow Rice to go forward or tracking back or squad rotation.. Merino has been outstanding when dropping back. As long as we have a striker fit and we can play Odegaard or Eze in Cam role, even Gyokeres up front, Havertz behind, Odegaard and Zub in mid.

    Sooo many options and that was a key factor in the recruitment process and plan wasn't just the right players and the right quality in the right positions.. versatility, players that can play in multiple positions was also crucial.

    From the moment I watched Josh Kroenke's long interview a year into Mikel Arteta's appointment i bought into the vision and have fully trusted the process since.

    I've heard the same comment made repeatedly by many Arsenal players this season and I think its this that is the difference between having quality and being successful.. its the atmosphere at the club.

    The c...
  • MW23 · MCIWOL+1.00@Bradley_0701 I’m sorry, but you’re delusional. European trophies does not play “a massive role” in how big a club is, sure - it adds prestige, history, and bragging rights, making it play a role, but it is not the main factor that decides how big a club is. It’s an add-on - not the foundation. A club becomes big mainly through fanbase, money, domestic success, history, and cultural impact. They just boost what’s already there. Also, Tottenham don’t have an “immense” history in Europe, they only won a few major UEFA trophies (1 Cup Winners cup) (2 UEFA Cups), which is respectable, but it’s not huge. When compared to other English clubs, like Liverpool, Chelsea, Nottingham Forest, their European trophy count is much smaller, in other words, they are overshadowed. By your logic, because European success plays a massive role in the size of a club, Nottingham Forest is bigger than Tottenham Hotspur, which is clearly not true. Their European trophies are important, not immense. Arsenal is not a “little,” small club, even you know that. And a trophy can factually still be a European trophy even if UEFA does not recognise it. A UEFA recognition decides whether it is an official UEFA troph...
  • MW31 · WOLARS+1.00Why was it so tense?? This is not down to the players bottling it - it is down to the manager playing a completely new system when he didn't need to. 2 in midfield and Saka as a number 10 is nice to experiment when you don't NEED to get any points, but it's RIDICULOUS when you desperately need to win AND play well to boost yor confidenc and you're up against a team at the bottom of the league.

    This performance was NOT by accident. It was by design. I've said it a hundred times and I'll say it again. Arteta is an Op. He desperately wants........
    his mentor, zaddie and teen idol Pep Guardiola to win the Premier League. Yes. Win the PL even at the expense of Arsenal losing. Pep is borderline depressed. Marriage problems. No trophies recently. And yet he has won everything for Man City. He desperately wants to leave Man City - but doesn't want to go out with a wimper - i.e. he wants to leave on a win.

    Arteta wants to help his friend achieve this outcome because he desperately wants to following in his 'lord and master's footsteps and become the NEW Man City manager when Pep leaves.

    Arsenal is nothing more than a stepping stone for Arteta. His objective is to gift Man City ...
  • MW4 · ARSNFO+1.00Honestly its amazing that it doesnt even feel like Salibas out with how solid defensively Gabi & Mosquera have been. To have your first start also be in one of the most difficult away stadiums against the reigning champions and to just slot right in is hugely impressive. It shows he doesnt just possess the talent & skills but also the intelligence, discipline, and overall ability to read the game.

    Its hard to say which signing had been the "best" & ultimately just the fact that they are all performing well is great. I really can't think of a signing who just immediately shined since maybe Tierney or Sanchez. The fact all the new signings are performing is a great sign for the clubs overall "health". It means players are happy to be here, are embracing the competition, and feel like part of the team and Arsenal overall. You cld really see it with Madueke this weekend. He faced unfair criticism about his signing but obviously Arteta & the staff showed their belief in him and it has shown on the pitch. He is playing with confidence, and the fans were singing his name at the end of the game.

    Eze played well and showed glimpses of his quality and will only improve. He has already ex...
Most negative
  • MW30 · ARSEVE-0.99> I think it's alarming and bordering on psychotic that you care so much about differing opinions on a football forum with thousands and thousands of active contributors

    You post like 20 messages a day and anyone who sorts the match thread or the daily discussion thread by New sees you gunking it up every fucking day with thousands of messages a year repeating “Gyokeres is shit”, “Madueke is shit”, “Arteta has used Saka like a bar of soap”, “wah wah wah I get downvotes from Top Gooner toxic positivity merchants”. You do this same schitick in r/soccer and r/gunners and in the r/gunners discord and you regularly get banned or timed out in the discord because absolutely everyone is sick of it.

    You are very memorable due to how unpleasant you are.

    > you're keeping tabs on me (and possibly others?) as "receipts" in case someone's stances aren't 100% consistent.

    I’m calling out bullshit on a statement that you’ve made here that directly contradicts a direct message that you initiated to me on Discord. It’s not “keeping tabs on someone” to simply remember a message that they have sent to you, and saying that it is and that the person is “possibly keeping tabs on others” is absolutely ...
  • MW23 · ARSMUN-0.99Eze has been a massive disappointment for me even considering the goals against Spurs. I know he is different to Ode but I expect him to want the ball and to do something with it. He constantly slows the game down when he gets the ball. Such a frustrating player to watch.

    Saka on the left with Timber did not work. Big mistake by Arteta. It should have been Martinelli for Trossard.

    Arteta needs a serious think. Our attack has completely lost its edge. Yes low/mid blocks stem the attack but for all our attacking talent we are toothless as fuck.

    Zubi with a rare but extremely costly mistake. Rice was poor IMO. Jesus did fuck all, and I doubted him starting too.

    Just really fucking disappointed with the performance. It was stupidly sloppy and poor from Arsenal.
  • MW23 · ARSMUN-0.99One of the most pathetic matches of the season. Unbelievable. You lot should be ashamed, starting from top down.

    The same kind of pathetic little bro performance vibes given off when played against Liverpool..

    The Liverpool players looked at you lot as if you were worthless. This teams mentality was utterly pathetic to watch. I mean struggling to find the words to describe how pathetic it looked.

    Choking and playing with so much fear and lacking any confidence. YOU PLAY FOR ARSENAL, OTHER TEAMS SHOULD BE FEARING YOU.

    LOOK AT THIS.. Unbeaten in champions league, top of the premier league and you suddenly turn into bumbling fools against Liverpool and Manu while teams have been destroying them... It's pathetic.

    You saw how manU grew in confidence as they see Arsenal players giving them so much respect... I never seen this level of choke. This is why Arsenal are called bottlers, you fkin bottled this match.

    I mean it's like these guys have been watching 2 hour log videos of how amazing Manu and Liverpool are and you must fear them and consider them giants.. it's pathetic.

    Stop talking about old Trafford and anfield and get off their laps and start telling the players to smas...
  • MW3 · LIVARS-0.99I swear down, this was football versus fucking war crimes against football. Slot's lot, even at half tilt, went out there with intent, energy, hunger. Arsenal? Arteta has absolutely butchered them. It’s not a football team anymore.

    I’ve never seen a team so terrified of their own shadow. Sideways, backwards, sideways, backwards. Rinse and repeat until your eyes bleed. It's cowardice. It's a manager who has brainwashed 11 talented players into playing like interns too scared to step out of line. It’s like watching 90 minutes of a fucking fire drill.

    And then, as always, they bottle it. Szoboszlai steps up, slams in a free kick, and Arsenal are suddenly thinking oh shit, maybe we’re meant to attack. Too fucking late. By then everyone knows the script: Arsenal have no fight, no spark, no identity, no bollocks. Just a joyless spreadsheet of patterns drilled into them until they suffocate the sport itself.

    Arteta on the touchline screaming like a lunatic, micromanaging every pass, every movement - for what? To turn Arsenal into the most boring, lifeless, soulless football club in the country. He’s strangled all creativity, all freedom, all joy, and for what? To choke in big games, ag...
  • MW3 · LIVARS-0.99I swear down, this was football versus fucking war crimes against football. Slot's lot, even at half tilt, went out there with intent, energy, hunger. Arsenal? Arteta has absolutely butchered them. It’s not a football team anymore.

    I’ve never seen a team so terrified of their own shadow. Sideways, backwards, sideways, backwards. Rinse and repeat until your eyes bleed. It's cowardice. It's a manager who has brainwashed 11 talented players into playing like interns too scared to step out of line. It’s like watching 90 minutes of a fucking fire drill.

    And then, as always, they bottle it. Szoboszlai steps up, slams in a free kick, and Arsenal are suddenly thinking oh shit, maybe we’re meant to attack. Too fucking late. By then everyone knows the script: Arsenal have no fight, no spark, no identity, no bollocks. Just a joyless spreadsheet of patterns drilled into them until they suffocate the sport itself.

    Arteta on the touchline screaming like a lunatic, micromanaging every pass, every movement - for what? To turn Arsenal into the most boring, lifeless, soulless football club in the country. He’s strangled all creativity, all freedom, all joy, and for what? To choke in big games, ag...

Michael Carrick MUN

Manchester United — 12,766 posts · avg VADER +0.141 · net +19.6
carrick 12,704 · michael carrick 738 · micheal carrick 67 · carick 62
Most positive
  • MW33 · CHEMUN+1.00@ManUtd @Unitedfans2023 United Edge Chelsea

    A Champions League spot is now almost certain for the Reds. At the start of the season, the club’s aim was to compete at the top end of the table and, at the very least, secure a top four finish. Things did not go according to plan in the early stages, but when Carrick was appointed, his mandate was clear: make sure Manchester United finish in the top four. With the momentum the team currently has, it now looks almost certain that United will achieve that objective in this Premier League campaign.

    Manchester United were not at their fluent best in the opening minutes. The passing lacked rhythm, and they looked too passive in possession, although they were more organised defensively. Chelsea had the larger share of possession in the first half, but United made their moment count. Just before the break, Bruno produced the assist and Cunha curled home brilliantly to give United the lead.

    United went into half time one goal up. At the start of the second half, many expected them to go on and kill the game, but Chelsea pressed high and pushed hard for an equaliser. They were unfortunate not to get one, hitting the post three times in the ma...
  • MW33 · CHEMUN+1.00@ManUtd United Edge Chelsea

    A Champions League spot is now almost certain for the Reds. At the start of the season, the club’s aim was to compete at the top end of the table and, at the very least, secure a top four finish. Things did not go according to plan in the early stages, but when Carrick was appointed, his mandate was clear: make sure Manchester United finish in the top four. With the momentum the team currently has, it now looks almost certain that United will achieve that objective in this Premier League campaign.

    Manchester United were not at their fluent best in the opening minutes. The passing lacked rhythm, and they looked too passive in possession, although they were more organised defensively. Chelsea had the larger share of possession in the first half, but United made their moment count. Just before the break, Bruno produced the assist and Cunha curled home brilliantly to give United the lead.

    United went into half time one goal up. At the start of the second half, many expected them to go on and kill the game, but Chelsea pressed high and pushed hard for an equaliser. They were unfortunate not to get one, hitting the post three times in the match, twice from ...
  • MW29 · NEWMUN+1.00Yeah will probably get down voted but I still think sacking Amorim was wrong. There were visible signs of progress and the team was ravaged by injuries and AFCON. What could've been with the full squad back we'll never know. Could he match Carrick's results ? Maybe not. But we were still improving and building toward something with a vision. Now we're in limbo when it comes to the future and we're really just hanging on thanks to vibes, red cards (didn't work out today) and individual brilliance from Sesko and Bruno in most games.

    I like Carrick but he is obviously a yes man, and a very nice man at that, someone who is probably coaching with arms around the shoulders of players and just generally being friendly and chill. That's good, that works for a bit, get everyone feeling good. But I think this group needs a firmer hand than that. Amorim and ten Hag both, if nothing else, made progress in raising discipline and improving culture. How quickly do we lose that I wonder if the manager tries to be best friends with the players. Maybe he's different behind closed doors. Amorim was all smiles to the media while punching TVs and keeping his distance in private. Yet every single pla...
  • MW30 · MUNAVL+1.00@ManUtd Manchester United got the job done against Villa, but it was far from convincing in the opening stages. In a must win game, fans expected intensity, urgency, and control from the first whistle. Instead, United looked sluggish, flat, and short of the aggression needed for such a big occasion. The tempo was too low, and for a while it felt like Villa were the side more likely to take charge.

    To United’s credit, they gradually grew into the contest. Casemiro and Mainoo began to assert themselves in midfield, helping the team settle and play with more rhythm. Bruno Fernandes, as always, was central to everything positive, demanding the ball, creating chances, and driving the side forward with real authority.

    Defensively, there was plenty to admire. Maguire and Yoro were excellent at the heart of the back line, standing firm despite Martinez being absent through injury. Yoro in particular produced a crucial block that kept United alive at an important moment in the game.

    Casemiro’s headed opener gave United the breakthrough they needed, with Bruno again providing the quality from out wide. Villa responded through Barkley, but United did not lose composure. That was an encoura...
  • MW23 · ARSMUN+1.00Correct me if i am wrong or downvote it if you hate/don't agree with this but please do correct me here if i am wrong. It is coming from a long term Man United fan and not only Bruno Fernandes fan, even though i like him, some of the passes he plays doesn't show his quality he is known for, does it? I have watched every Man United game under Ruben Amorim and now both games under Michael Carrick, he has done the same while playing under Amorim too. Some of his passes if we see from a footballers perspective, we know that isn't the right one, why did he do that? Under Ruben Amorim i thought he played an unnatural position so he was unfamiliar how to play there that's why that pressure got him but why under Michael Carrick? He is playing his good position now. He also gets frustrated a lot, which he shouldn't as a captain. Literally every other player has improved their passing and possession and they play calmly now like they own the pitch. Dalot plays very confidently now, his passes are good. Casemiro used to play bad passes before but now he has improved so much. Dorgu is on a high now. Apart from that bad clearance in the box which costed us the goal, he has been amazing since hi...
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  • MW32 · MUNLEE-0.98Terrible selection and subs by carrick, i never want to see ugarte near this club ever again. Took way too long to bring off amad who continues to have yet another shocking performance, Mbeumo did more in 20 minutes then amad in 70.

    Yoro staying on the whole 90 despite constantly losing DCL and was just stinking up the place.

    Bruno having some of the worst corners this game as well.

    Dalot just such a negative IQ player, ending the momentum with such an ill advised shot.

    Maz and Shaw just lost the entire game, shit going forward and shit defending.

    Sesko can probably learn a thing or two from DCL on being a target man. isolated nearly for the entire game.

  • MW32 · MUNLEE-0.98I have been consistent that our performances under carrick have been poor beyond the arsenal game. Actually they have been getting poorer every single time we play. We press like fools now...2 or 3 of our players pressing one of theirs... team is unsure when to press or hold...our attack comes down to Bruno. This is ole 2.0. We have slightly better possession but thats about it. Infact, the possession is getting worse and worse every game. If the club gives Carrick the job... just forget about the PL or CL for 3 years. This football is not sustainable...just speak what your eyes see. You can not fluke your way into a PL title or the CL...no matter what. If fans are happy with maybe wining a league cup or fa cup...give Carrick the job..but if you want more, just forget about it. Next season, he will first blame many fixtures...then he will blame injuries...and then he will call it a bad patch of results forgetting the poor performances even before results turned. This is exactly what ole did. These managers never look into their methods...its always something external.
  • MW31 · BOUMUN-0.98I think the refree was shocking today. Too many bad calls made by him and the VAR. But besides that, I still think we were not good enough. Bournemouth passed the ball nicely and we were more in a low block today as we normally have been. The pace and desire was not really there on the counters today for me. In regards to the players, I think Amad and Mbeumo have been quite poor recently. Mbeumo is not a striker, and playing him as that is costing the team. He is not a target man like Sesko, and with Mbeumo on top, we don't have that aerial threat. He drifts around quite a lot, and I think this slows us down because we don't have that target man up top to challege the back line. Carrick should play Sesko as striker from start and put Mbeumo on the right side instead of Amad, who has been very poor. I think this would strenghten us. We need more strength in the air, as well. Casemiro is quite good in the duels, but apart from him, our other attackers are very weak in aerial duels, and I do think this costs us. We should be more daring and more aggressive in our counters. And some of the players simply just have not been good enough. Ugarte is not good enough. Everytime he comes on, ...
  • MW32 · MUNLEE-0.98Gary Neville, Mark Goldberg, Flex, Saeed, Roy Keane, Rio Ferdinand — the same voices screaming for Amorim to be sacked over a DRAW with Leeds.

    A draw. Not even a loss.

    But now Carrick actually loses to the same team? Silence. No outrage, no calls for the sack… nothing.

    This is exactly what’s wrong. Pundits and fan channels acting like every dropped point is a crisis, constantly pushing narratives that destabilise the club.

    You don’t want progress — you want drama, clicks, and someone to blame.

    Maybe stop pointing fingers at managers every five minutes and look at the toxic cycle you keep feeding.

    Because right now, you lot are part of the problem — not the solution.
  • MW32 · MUNLEE-0.98Gary Neville, Mark Goldberg, Flex, Saeed, Roy Keane, Rio Ferdinand — the same voices screaming for Amorim to be sacked over a DRAW with Leeds.

    A draw. Not even a loss.

    But now Carrick actually loses to the same team? Silence. No outrage, no calls for the sack… nothing.

    This is exactly what’s wrong. Pundits and fan channels acting like every dropped point is a crisis, constantly pushing narratives that destabilise the club.

    You don’t want progress — you want drama, clicks, and someone to blame.

    Maybe stop pointing fingers at managers every five minutes and look at the toxic cycle you keep feeding.

    Because right now, you lot are part of the problem — not the solution.

Eddie Howe NEW

Newcastle — 12,154 posts · avg VADER +0.017 · net +1.8
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  • MW8 · BHANEW+1.00​@jmzrc17 I could say so much but don't want to.
    Majority of the international players u mentioned of are not starters on their team. The work load is different.
    Also, aside the fact that they went on international break, Majority of those players are not playing in a lot of competitions so they are well rested.

    Unlike us, we have had our season plans and progress destabilised, we have had to change our identity and style of play while on the fly when we didn't even have a proper pre season bcos of everything going on bts.

    We have had to buy a striker and throw him in the fire right away , he was not match fit for this level, we had to work him out bts and he's coming along. We have a new team that couldn't get the time to train together and be accustomed to the Newcastle way of playing. We have had to make these players absorb all these things on the fly.

    Brighton on the other hand, have kept this team for 2 or 3 seasons now. Just a few additions here and there.

    And we looked this good against them?

    Listen, I have watched a lot of Brighton games this season and the way they split our midfield is a credit to them. They do this against every team. They did it to Manchest...
  • MW16 · SUNNEW+1.00The thing for me is... I just don't see the plan.

    A few years ago, on the right, you'd have the triangle of Miggy, Bruno and Trippier doing give and goes, rotational movement, and finding space for one another. Where is that now? Occasionally we do a through ball to Murphy. That's it now on the right in terms of build up play.

    On the left we'd have Joelinton and Willock dovetailing. Now... We occassionally have Hall overlap.

    I don't see the plans. I don't see the patterns. I don't see the instructions, and what I do see doesn't make sense.

    Elanga seems asked to stay wide, run, and try to cross. Gordon seems to get asked the same (which isn't his game. He's quick, but he's better linking up and driving inside, then he is going wide).

    Woltemade was great dropping deep and linking up earlier in the season... Now he doesn't do it. He seems to be asked to stay forward and try to hold the attack forward. Which is putting him in a constant 1 vs 3 because he has no support when he does get the ball. It's totally against his game. It's almost like Howe doesn't like the key parts of his game, and just wants a big lad to head it...

    Bruno and Tonali... For me. Are deep midfielders....
  • MW8 · BHANEW+1.00​@MM-1990-6Against Bournemoth and Brighton so far, factors have not favored us.
    Against Bournemoth, we were a team still figuring it out and understanding each other . We had 4 shots the entire game.

    Against Brighton today, u can see it beginning to click, u can start to see how Eddie wants to play. Its way better and very much fluid and has intent to it. But unfortunately, we are crippled with injuries and work load and its shown today. Which was a part in our undoing.

    Brighton do not have so many games to play so they are well rested and sharper. That was the tale in the first half.

    In the 2nd half , when Eddie made changes, we looked the superior team. Actually had Brighton hanging on for dear life.

    In less than 30 minutes, we created 11 chances. The entire 2nd half was all Newcastle. We had 14 chances created in the 2nd half.
    This was a very positive performance. Eddie is working trust me, and to have everyone picking up this quick within the season is a lot of work. Hes done great. We will struggle but eventually we will be fine. When the full house is back, we will give a lot of teams hell.

    And book it, if everything goes well, all league matches we have lost s...
  • MW8 · BHANEW+0.99Look, this is a nuanced and complex situation. When you sell your star striker, and sign four or five players it's with the intention to re-design how you play. That takes time. It takes patience. More importantly it requires the players—new and old—to sync up and find the kind of rhythm that defined Eddie's first full season in charge.

    Now, as with any diagnosis there's good news and bad news.

    The good

    \- Nick Woltemade looks more than suitable for the Premier League and with consistent service scores consistently. This was always the worry for me coming out of the window, but Nick has quickly calmed those fears.

    \- Same applies to big Malick Thiaw. Some player that boy.

    \- We're scoring some very nice goals. Today's goal was gorgeous team play against a side that are supposed to be easy on the eye. We carved them open and I would say for long periods of the second half were much the better side.

    \- Despite all of this we're still in touching distance of the top half even though we've been 'slow' by our standards.

    The bad

    \- The wingers are mostly underperforming. Gordon is living a little off the goals in Belgium, but right now Gordon, Barnes, Elanga, and Murphy h...
  • MW25 · NEWBRE+0.99I know my reputation as a serial bed wetter precedes me here, but if people will excuse my flare just for once, I kindly ask you to indulge me for one moment. 

    As we all know, Eddie’s entire game style is intensity and balls to the wall pressing. When we have a fully fit squad that isn’t burnt out and with players suited to that style, it is an absolutely devastating approach for any opposition in the world. The problem is that it’s not sustainable, especially if you want to compete in multiple competitions. You cannot afford injuries, you cannot sustain it across 60 games, and you certainly cannot afford passengers in the team. 

    So you need to adapt. You need a plan B for when you can’t play that way. And by Eddie’s own admission, there is only Plan A and “Plan A but better”. At the highest level of football in the best league of the world, such one dimensional thinking isn’t good enough. History shows that managers who choose to die on these weird hills always end up sacked. I honestly think if Eddie was as a bit more self reflective and admitted he would have to adapt his style and needed time to do it, he would have far more grace with the fanbase. 

    Eddie has been a wonderfu...
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  • MW32 · CRYNEW-1.00@NUFC Fuck Howe
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  • MW16 · SUNNEW-0.99Wouldn’t disagree with that.

    My take is. I always feel Eddie would grow as a manager with us and learn how to manage these things. Last time it was uncharted territory to him.

    But he appears to be making the same mistakes. Not using his squad, etc.

    It’s not just about the lack of intensity. I just don’t see any kind of identity in the team.

    We’re shit on the counter, we’re shit in a low and even mid block, we’re crap on possession, we’re not a passing team, we’re not a running team, we can’t break down a low block.

    I’m not surprised Isak is struggling at Liverpool and being criticised as lazy. His box movement was always shit here, which I’ve pointed out tons. And not just his movement in the final 3rd. The whole teams. The difference is, we generated tap ins for him last season and he’s not getting that at Liverpool.
  • MW10 · WHUNEW-0.99Absolutely shocking.

    Damned if we do damned if we don’t.

    We can’t defend transitions. We have a bunch of players that are lightweight defending them but better at not giving them away. And another group that are better for defending them but often give the ball away cheaply.

    Bruno for me needs to be taken off his pedestal. He gets a free pass every week because he does some great things but when he’s off he’s a liability on the ball. Holds it too long. Tries to always buy fouls even though we are woeful at set pieces.

    Joelinton is not right and should be 6th choice right now. I’ve long defended him but all he does is foul players carelessly right now. He’s so far below levels.

    And not sure what Eddie was thinking with those wholesale changes. Screwed the entire team make up. Murphy had fizzled out of the game after about 15 mins and should’ve come off at half time.

    That second half was just confused. We played keep ball for much of it but took the striker that would suit that off for the one that suited a more stretched game.

    Our attacking players are so far off it. They can’t deliver a decent final 3rd ball. Crosses are shit. Threaded balls are shit. Quick one twos a...
  • MW25 · NEWBRE-0.99Once again unforced errors are constantly costing us - and sacking Howe won't solve that issue. The rot we've seen this season extends to every level

    We have players who make the same brain dead basic errors repeatedly and never seem to learn from them from one minute to the next let alone from one game to another. Then they're clearly hiding behind the flak Howe is taking to avoid even an ounce of personal responsibility and will probably wash their hands of us and fuck off in the summer.

    Then you've got the board who have twiddled their thumbs when it comes to growing the commercial side of this club properly and haven't been investing properly in the infrastructure needed at all levels to compete with top clubs. Then they saw how bad it was coming into January and decided to not invest at all - when it was desperately needed - for some harebrained idea that it might affect the Summer window when not getting European football full stop will be so much worse.

    And Howe of course has to take his share of the blame. I think in recent weeks the tactics have been mostly sound but individual errors have cost us which means he simply has to start dropping the worst offenders and - i...
  • MW25 · NEWBRE-0.99İt is a disastrous season!

    No European football next season.

    How Howe?

    No defence
    No wings
    No striker
    No one single player like Jensen at Brentford
    No balance

    Only running and physical style!
    This is not First Division.
    This is PL!
    And we are not Burnley or Bournemouth!
    We are Newcastle United with a World Class Stadium and also Supporters.
    This is absolutely unacceptable!!!
    😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

    Away from home? Championship!!!
    At home?Now also Championship as the richest club in the World!!!

    The transfers except Woltemade are all flops.
    Especially Wissa and Elanga.
    We were furious and angry about the behaviour of ISAK, but WİSSA did the same at Brentford!

    After two minutes I knew that Barnes did not have a chance against Kayode.
    The wings are a disaster.
    And therefore Woltemade cannot score!!!
    Every opponent at home beats us.
    At home we are also now the same.

    With this Rambostyle you can win nothing-not even the Cacao Cup!!!

    You need dangerous technical situations as Hall does for example.


    Always with physical style,
    No chance.


    It is really disappointing and also really frustrating.

    Without a doubt a disastrous season.


    One season good-then CL!
    Next season a disaster.Nothing...

Pep Guardiola MCI

Manchester City — 9,926 posts · avg VADER +0.101 · net +14.5
pep 9,210 · guardiola 1,076 · pep guardiola 330
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  • MW31 · WOLARS+1.00Why was it so tense?? This is not down to the players bottling it - it is down to the manager playing a completely new system when he didn't need to. 2 in midfield and Saka as a number 10 is nice to experiment when you don't NEED to get any points, but it's RIDICULOUS when you desperately need to win AND play well to boost yor confidenc and you're up against a team at the bottom of the league.

    This performance was NOT by accident. It was by design. I've said it a hundred times and I'll say it again. Arteta is an Op. He desperately wants........
    his mentor, zaddie and teen idol Pep Guardiola to win the Premier League. Yes. Win the PL even at the expense of Arsenal losing. Pep is borderline depressed. Marriage problems. No trophies recently. And yet he has won everything for Man City. He desperately wants to leave Man City - but doesn't want to go out with a wimper - i.e. he wants to leave on a win.

    Arteta wants to help his friend achieve this outcome because he desperately wants to following in his 'lord and master's footsteps and become the NEW Man City manager when Pep leaves.

    Arsenal is nothing more than a stepping stone for Arteta. His objective is to gift Man City ...
  • MW3 · BHAMCI+1.00Summary:

    No one looked good, at all. No one played as well as they should, could or as they did two weeks ago against wolves, just seems like no one has enough confidence, let's go over it in detail:

    RAN, looked great in all games ever since CWC but today looked absolutely horrible, probably the worst player on the field today aside from a moment or two.

    Bernardo, just a ghost.

    Nunes, just showing that he's simply not a RB, he just looks so lost playing at RB.

    Bobb, looked decent, created some chances but holds onto the ball for too long and is sometimes too slow to do anything.

    Reijinders, mid, not what we saw in previous games but not bad at all either, we're seeing a tactical shift where he has a lot of freedom which is very promising.

    Rodri, by far the best player on the pitch, his presence just makes so much more composed and saved us plenty of times, as always.

    Marmoush, looked decent, one of the better players on the pitch today, showing a lot of passion, created some chances, could become a great LW.

    Haaland, wasted a few chances, but looked very average today.

    Doku, simply can't do what he used to do anymore.

    O'Riley, looks good, when he came we gained a lot mor...
  • MW16 · MUNBOU+1.00I watched the game the way I usually do, standing in the club canteen with my apron still on, one eye on the coffee machine and the other on the small TV in the corner, and from the first minutes I could tell it was going to be a tough one because Palace looked sharp and confident, and when Pino hit the crossbar I actually paused what I was doing, heart in my throat, while Donnarumma stayed calm and solid, the kind of calm that spreads without saying a word. Haaland was quiet for a long time and I know some people think that means he’s not involved, but I’ve learned here that patience matters, that big moments often come after long spells of waiting, and when Nunes finally sent that deep cross into the box and Haaland rose to head it home, I didn’t celebrate loudly, I just smiled, because that was Haaland in a sentence, one chance, one goal. Nunes deserves credit too, because he kept running and offering himself even after things didn’t always come off, like anyone who keeps showing up and doing their job without hiding. Foden’s goal felt special in a different way, because he feels like one of our own, quiet and focused, and when Cherki slipped him the ball and he finished so clea...
  • MW24 · TOTMCI+1.00I speak as a very saddened and distraught fan
    What the hell is up with these bunch of players,they have the talent,the best manager and coaching stuff that are trying to make them world class players but they seem to not have the drive,passion,hunger and desire to play for the City badge and chase titles. Speaking as a City fan who started watching City back in 2011,I can tell you those players knew they were underdogs against United but when they stepped on the pitch,they weren't playing the best football,but they had desire and passion to win. Fast forward to the centurions,that team had hunger in their eyes to not only win titles but to play for that City badge. I remember the 18/19 season when we started dipping in form and the City captains held a meeting with the players and reminded themselves why they came to that club. And the players responded by going on a winning run to win the league,in every loss or even a draw you could see the distraught in them but you could also see that they had that hunger to go again.
    Coming to this team,Haaland in particular,we've just let a 2 goal lead slip,and he is there hugging and smiling Udogie like his little brother !!!. In the 92nd mi...
  • MW24 · TOTMCI+1.00@foxernator Credit for using honest inflation figures, I'll just quibble with a few things. You'd have to look to "relative spending power": if Manager A spent £60,000 on a player in the 60s whereas his rival Manager B could only spend £20,000, inflation doesn't capture that A's spending power was 200% greater relative to B, whereas in the 21st-century, Manger A spending £150m compared to Manager B spending £100m is a seemingly enormous disparity of £50m compared to a "measly" £40k, but the relative spending power is 50%, not 200%.

    Even as early as 1996, Man Utd had 50% more revenue than Barcelona (in second-place financially) and Arsenal barely had half what Man Utd were generating, to the point where they were having to sell players like Overmars and Anelka to fund the construction of their training ground! It's apples-and-oranges to compare Pep and Ferguson, even with inflation; you have to compare how much relative spending power they had over second-place relative to their era; Pep's best years were when Man Utd had higher/comparable wage-bills and transfers and even Liverpool had similar revenue and fairly close wage-bills - I'll qualify that below.


    And no one was near Man...
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  • MW31 · EVECHE-1.00Dude give me a break, maresca was not good. He couldn’t coach against mediocre teams worth shit. Bringing up the club World Cup from 9 months ago? He had 3 good games all year and you’re acting like he’s the new pep. The recent win against Aston villa is just as good as the tie against arsenal, win against Barcelona, or win against a in the dumps Liverpool. The first 2 goals today were on Fofana being terrible. Rosenior hasn’t had a good Palmer like maresca, completely fit Estevao, or colwill. I don’t even think he’s that good but to act like it’s the same situation is stupid.

    “Controlled games” = pass it side to side for 90 minutes and tie or lose to bad teams? I thought we had standards here. If he was so upset he quit, why did he coach good games against Barcelona and arsenal then follow it up with shit shows against Leeds and Atalanta? It’s almost like he was as bad and inconsistent as the players.

    Edit: and if the transfers were such a big deal for maresca and that’s why he had horrific games, the arsenal and Barcelona games should have never even happened. He was just bad. We should be mad the club, but the managers aren’t the biggest problem. Neither maresca nor rosenior...
  • MW24 · TOTMCI-0.99This deserves a rant but I'll just list out what I think and get fuck off from the internet...

    1. Haaland needs to fight for his position, its a bloody joke leaving Marmoush out like that.
    2. The team needs to show some character. Shit happens. Decisions go against you, but top teams always bounce back, you gotta show that character and take the damn initiative. It's not just a Doku Or Cherki thing.
    3. Bernardo blaming should stop right here and right now. If you don't know why, your carbon footprint trumps an actual plastic.
    4. Breaks my heart to say this, but Rodri's decline is visible now. I hope there's still some of that beast left in him. I really believe it does!
    5. Semenyo! Wtf was that...Thanks for the goal but SERIOUSLY WTF WAS THAT!!! Him and Haaland were allowed to drive stinkers for the whole 2nd half, and Marmoush somehow, still just finds less than 5 mins to play?
    6. If you are "Pep Out" you are either 12 or a neurotic. You just cannot keep throwing games away like that coz you couldn't be clinical in front of goal. This should have been 5-2 city. It was a players problem!
  • MW30 · WHUMCI-0.99FUCK NUNO STALIN, FUCK PEP, FUCK MICHAEL OLIVER, FUCK HALLAND, FUCK FODEN, FUCK DOKU, FUCK NEGRIRA, FUCK LAPORTA, FUCK PEREZ, FUCK WALKER PETERS
  • MW22 · MUNMCI-0.99Ref - should have been United with ten men for 80 minutes but once again, ref and VAR balls it up.

    We miss Nico, don't we. It's okay to admit it. This turn of bad form coincides with his injury. He is a fighter and today we didn't have any.

    Overall - lack of combativeness. poor decision making. totally overawed. ignored United's high line and how many times in the second part of the first half were Haaland and Semenyo making runs in behind and ignored? How many times do we pass into the 1 blue shirt surrounded by 5 red ones and how many times did we refuse to cross the ball, hundreds of times it feels like.


    Pep - wtf, honestly. We needed a proper LB today and Ake in the middle from the off and didn't need to play the high line against United, keep the game in front of us and we would have been fine even though it might have been 0-0.

    Rodri - was slow, in thought and passing. Didn't move the ball fast enough forward. Lost every battle. Let Fernandes run free. Rodri honestly looks like he hates football. Terrible body language since his return.

    Doku - Abysmal. Didn't really attack. Lost the ball. Poor decisions. Tracked back a couple time...
  • MW33 · MCIARS-0.99Im getting fucking tired of this shit every year, Literally every season we bend over and let pep have his way. This is getting fucking ridiculous and we better not lose another game or draw one. Its literally the wingers and strikers not being able to finish for their life. We need to go spend 140m on a Left winger because this is not sustainable and we're not gonna be able to do shit with this attack anymore. And why the FUCK are we not replacing players that arent good enough clearly? odegaard is finished honestly and so is Martinelli, No reason to have them. Dont even get me started on that fuckass gyokeres and Havertz combo because that shit is even worse, they cant finish or dribble. How about instead of bringing in a 8th defender we start spending big on forwards and midfielders (and not 60m on a guy from the Portuguese league whos 26). Ive had to endure this for 4 seasons and it gets to a point where we need to talk about arteta  and whats going through his head mid game to make these changes, subbing off eze might have been one of the worst decisions ive ever seen. All that to say we're still not good enough in a city "down" year.

Liam Rosenior CHE

Chelsea — 6,295 posts · avg VADER +0.007 · net +2.1
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  • MW30 · CHENEW+1.00These comments are hilarious, y'all forget Tuchel has us 4th and 3rd in the EPL during a time where only Liverpool and City were any good, with a much better and more experienced team than what we have now. We had prime Mendy who was the best keeper in the world on his day, Rudiger and Silva at CB, James, Chilwell, Dave and Alonso, Jorginho, Kante and Kovacic in their primes, Mount who was absolutely bossing the midfield and looking better than prime Foden, and Werner, Ziyech and Havertz who were all great before Chelsea and Havertz has gone on to look revitalize after leaving us. We had experience and a very very strong team albeit some players underperforming (but y'all wanna act like Tuchel got the best out of everyone). Realistically we had a weak group in the UCL, faced a poor Athletico Madrid team, then got Porto who weren't at their best either, then got lucky getting Real Madrid who were in transition and far from the strength of prior years, and to top it off we faced Peps City in the finals and Pep is notorious for outplaying himself in big finals which he absolutely did in that UCL final. Yeah Tuchel played a role, but he didn't do anything that special and you're lookin...
  • MW27 · CHEBUR+0.99>Okay let’s start with the runners because usually I’m on the side of the passer if nobody is making runs but there’ll be many times in a game Joao Pedro or Pedro Neto or Delap or even Jackson back in the day making a run that is simply ignored for a simpler safer pass. Also running behind the defense isn’t the only type of movement that creates goal scoring opps. Chances can come from playing 1-2s to pull defenders around and create quick link ups. That result in chances against stagnant defenses. The kind of stuff we see Palmer do and even Joao Felix back in the day would do a lot. Cute back heel passes and flicks around the corner that create gaps. Enzo hovers in the spaces to do this but either he doesn’t make the pass or he makes it and doesn’t move. He’s relatively static unless he’s crashing the box.

    For all the players you mentioned there, that's basically only 1-2 at most since Pedro/Delap/Jackson are all STs. Is that really enough? It's fine trying to play the 1-2s and all that but again, how often do we see that against deep defences, with little space to do?

    It does seem like we're trying to do it more now under Rosenior, trying to play through the middle but this als...
  • MW22 · CHEBRE+0.99Rosenior needs to get contacts cause with them specs he looks too much like my old geography teacher from college 42 years ago Seriously he just looks too severe That was a very good game Brentford are going well but Chelsea at the Bridge is an extremely tough ask Loved watching Cole Palmer in the U21s for England he's an absolutely fantastic player and if the full England team want to have any chance in the world cup then he has to stay fit and that's as far as it goes for my support for the national team This was great cheers And I have a copy of the LIQUIDATOR on vinyl. Fantastic never gets old and the more bass the better 🇬🇧🙊🙉🙈🏐🥅⚽🎸🤘🎹🎷🎺🎭
  • MW32 · CHEMCI+0.99Linkedin Rosenior:

    "Always find the wins in the losses.
    Today, Chelsea fell 3–0 to Manchester City — a result that some might call disappointing. But in leadership, perspective is everything. We didn’t just play football, we protected integrity.
    In allowing City to claim the three points, we’ve contributed to the broader ecosystem of football — ensuring that Arsenal’s title dreams remain a healthy, aspirational target rather than an immediate reality. Growth, after all, thrives on deferred gratification.
    My players demonstrated discipline, alignment, and a commitment to long-term vision. In a world obsessed with winning, sometimes the most courageous thing to do is to lose strategically.
    Success isn’t about the scoreboard — it’s about serving the game, the fans, and the balance of the Premier League.
    #Leadership #Resilience #CultureBuilding #ManCity #ContinuousImprovement #DataDrivenDefeats"
  • MW34 · BHACHE+0.99Only one word to describe that Chelsea performance..."pathetic".
    I have not seen CFC play this badly since the relegation years of the 80's.
    The question is: Who's fault is it?
    BluCo?
    The Manager?
    The Players?
    Ok, Palmer out through injury..."again"...James out through injury..."again"...and Pedro out did not help and having to rely on a so called Striker, who has not scored since 1905, in Delap, did not help, but still.
    I bet Chelsea Fans are so glad that Rosenior was appointed Manager.
    To make all those tactical decisions, pick the right formations, so that CFC can win every game, using all his PL Managerial knowhow, to use, given all those PL Clubs he has Managed in the past...?...oh no, hang on a minute...
    Or BlueCo, not buying that World Class CD, or two, that is so desperately needed, to go with the 50 Defenders they already have.
    I think they really need another 10 or so Midfield Players, to go with the 500 they already have to.
    Or maybe another useless Forward.
    A World Class Striker?...Naaah! They do not need a World Class Striker, not with all the goals they are banging in 'n all.
    I remember a game when Mourinho was in charge the first time, West Brom I think,...
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  • MW32 · CHEMCI-1.00@ChelseaFC Fuck BlueCo
    Fuck Clearlake
    Fuck Liam Rosenior
    Fuck Sanchez
    Fuck Fofana
    Fuck Hato
    Fuck Essugo
    Fuck Cucurella
    Fuck Caicedo
    Fuck Garnacho
    Fuck Santos
    Fuck Joao Pedro
    Fuck Neto
    Fuck Palmer
    Fuck Estevao
    Fuck Chelsea
    Fuck Manchester City
    Fuck Arsenal
    Fuck you
    Fuck me too
    Fuck your wife
    Fuck your husband
    Fuck your boyfriend
    Fuck your girlfriend
    Fuck the haters
    Fuck the fans
    Fuck everyone
  • MW31 · EVECHE-1.00Dude give me a break, maresca was not good. He couldn’t coach against mediocre teams worth shit. Bringing up the club World Cup from 9 months ago? He had 3 good games all year and you’re acting like he’s the new pep. The recent win against Aston villa is just as good as the tie against arsenal, win against Barcelona, or win against a in the dumps Liverpool. The first 2 goals today were on Fofana being terrible. Rosenior hasn’t had a good Palmer like maresca, completely fit Estevao, or colwill. I don’t even think he’s that good but to act like it’s the same situation is stupid.

    “Controlled games” = pass it side to side for 90 minutes and tie or lose to bad teams? I thought we had standards here. If he was so upset he quit, why did he coach good games against Barcelona and arsenal then follow it up with shit shows against Leeds and Atalanta? It’s almost like he was as bad and inconsistent as the players.

    Edit: and if the transfers were such a big deal for maresca and that’s why he had horrific games, the arsenal and Barcelona games should have never even happened. He was just bad. We should be mad the club, but the managers aren’t the biggest problem. Neither maresca nor rosenior...
  • MW33 · CHEMUN-0.99@ChelseaFC Fuck BlueCo
    Fuck Clearlake
    Fuck Boehly
    fuck Eghbali
    Fuck Liam Rosenior
    Fuck Neto
    Fuck Palmer
    Fuck Chelsea
    Fuck you
    Fuck me too
    Fuck the haters
    Fuck the fans
    Fuck everyone
  • MW30 · CHENEW-0.99@ChelseaFC ROSENIOR CANNOT WIN BIG GAME

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  • MW34 · BHACHE-0.98Said it at the weekend, this squad isn't perfect but somehow, Rosenior has made the worst out of an imperfect situation.

    There's absolutely no way a semi-competent manager would have had us lose 7 consecutive games against top flight teams with an aggregate score of 2-19, with 5 of them being 3-goal losses. Like, not even Potter led us to such a bad run in 22/23 FFS!!

David Moyes EVE

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  • MW5 · CRYWHU+1.00There was a (very generalised) ten point plan that was put out when Sullivan and Gold took over. Points included: Signing new players, appointing the right manager, investing in the academy, clearing the debt, freezing season ticket prices for renewals, building the status of the club, making the football enjoyable to watch, getting closer with the community, moving to the London Stadium, and finally listening to supporters.

    Again a very generalised set of points, which in some cases essentially mean the club would have to collapse to not tick off. I’ve wrote about them before breaking them down (which I’ll paste below), and some points can absolutely be refuted, but I’m of the opinion in a lot of cases there has been no real sign of consistent improvement, more so simply coasting along with a hopeful complacency of staying in the Prem.



    Every club has to sign players to function, it is a bare minimum expectation. It’s debatable whether those signed players are of an overall quality better than what we were signing before based on strength and circumstances of the league and game itself at the time. Our stars very rarely seem to be our big name signings.

    Maybe you could argue t...
  • MW5 · LIVEVE+1.00I know we did not win but I gotta say I’m so proud to support this team. Ever since Moyes took over it has looked like night and day. Beto, and as always Pickford, did an especially great job. It was an away game against the #1 team in the league and they are truly playing like #1 this year. Proud of this team, proud of the fans supporting till the end, proud of our great coach!
    Here’s to a good rest and good game against Arsenal Saturday!
  • MW19 · WHUBHA+1.00Unfortunate to not win (the first half especially, despite the pens we were really controlling outside the box) but also lucky to get away with a point, again just lacking the depth to see out games same as always. Adama can’t come soon enough.

    It’s insane how our players form just flip-flops game by game, Kilman was good against Fulham but gives away so much here. Areola is another, some games he’s the best keeper in the world but he couldn’t catch a cold here. Hoping Todibo isn’t out and it’s just fitness or a cramp, something minor.

    Wilson was great but clearly getting gassed by the end. Bowen was fantastic, Paq hot and cold. Scarles motm imo, locked down Minteh for the most part and Gruda didn’t get a sniff, so close to a goal too, would’ve the cherry on top of a fantastic bounce back from last games error.

    Midfield again getting better partnerships, game by game they improve and link up better, experience is everything. Fernandes, KWP and Bowen have a little thing I like going on.

    Hoping this marks the end of a shite year and the beginning of a better one. I haven’t relegated us yet! We’re somehow still gaining on Forest (thank you Moyes!). That game imo will be the b...
  • MW10 · SUNEVE+0.99It's frustrating.

    On one hand, we're in a much better place points wise compared to the same time in previous seasons. The bottom 3 already looks to be about locked in apart from the 18th position. We've got new ownership and a stadium to go with it that have our books in a much better place. There's been some good matches under a manager the fan base knows well and largely admires.

    And yet, albeit in a season I don't think anyone has high hopes for apart from a solid mid table finish, there's been matches like this. We know striking is a problem, it's about as clear a problem as I've seen in a football side. And yet, the plan seems to be to stick with the same formation and players and hope some shit sticks to the wall.

    Unfortunately, that has not been working. I think some of our best moments in the first came when players like Ndiaye or Grealish were driving the ball from the middle with fullbacks or midfielders providing the overlap. I don't think anyone will argue that the wings are not the best position for both players. But their brilliant creative and passing abilities get entirely negated by having a pair of strikers who cannot for the life of them score currently.

    Yo...
  • MW3 · NFOWHU+0.99@@kiriak0z Saying Moyes was a "lucky mistake" is very much up for debate but I'm not going to go into that as I know fans are very divided on the whole thing (I'm very much pro-Moyes and tend to agree with Sullivan's decisions around that era, I don't think he's the mug that most fans make him out to be). But that's a debate for another day. One thing I will definitely agree on is that they screwed up big time with the Lopetegui appointment and should be held accountable for that.

    I can agree on your revised expectations, what I disagreed on was your post above where you claimed the board aims for 17th every year and implied that we should be looking to finish in UCL spots behind Liverpool 🤣But I would say that we have shown glimpses of increased "professionalism" the past year, bringing in Macauley as Head of Recruitment and signing Diouf, Magassa, Fernandes, Mads, clearing out the Moyes old guard etc. As well as generally at least trying to play a nicer style of football under Potter although this is obviously going to take a while yet to fully bed in. We will see how this season pans out, obviously 1 win doesn't mean everything is well and fine but we played like a proper Prem...
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  • MW8 · WHUBRE-0.99The rot started in Moyes final two years at the club, they got into the Euro cup by default but the Prem form was awful right up until his contract run out, he was offered another contract but turned it down. The following two coaches were just as bad / floppy & piss poor Potter were just similar as Moyes / low block but with no real attacking option's. West ham haven't really had an out right attacker for at least five year's. The ones they have bought are injurery prone or passed sell by date or both. West ham have been buying old attackers for decades.
  • MW7 · EVEMUN-0.9910th - 7th is very much the ceiling of this team.

    It's just how we get here is fucking awful to watch. There is potential to be playing more "attractive" football but:

    1) Does that get us enough points to be higher than 7th?

    2) Will there be a trade off in how good we've been defensively. 31 conceded with 11 coming from 3 awful games vs Brentford, Newcastle and Spurs. Otherwise we've been awful sometimes, but competitive in most games.

    We dont have a striker, I love Barry's effort and I hope to be proven wrong but I dont think he'll be the next big thing.

    We have no fullbacks, this is solely on the club and maybe Moyes who says he has final say on all transfers.

    AFCON year, which then coincided with a mini injury crisis. Gana has been awful since coming back as well.

    I'm not defending all of Moyes decisions cause many of them make no sense to me, but reality is, the squad is at best, 7th, and thats a stretch...Newcastle, Brighton, Fulham, Spurs and Forest arguably have better squads but between shit owners, shit managers, injuries and overall just bad performances we're ahead of them.
  • MW27 · EVEMUN-0.9910th - 7th is very much the ceiling of this team.

    It's just how we get here is fucking awful to watch. There is potential to be playing more "attractive" football but:

    1) Does that get us enough points to be higher than 7th?

    2) Will there be a trade off in how good we've been defensively. 31 conceded with 11 coming from 3 awful games vs Brentford, Newcastle and Spurs. Otherwise we've been awful sometimes, but competitive in most games.

    We dont have a striker, I love Barry's effort and I hope to be proven wrong but I dont think he'll be the next big thing.

    We have no fullbacks, this is solely on the club and maybe Moyes who says he has final say on all transfers.

    AFCON year, which then coincided with a mini injury crisis. Gana has been awful since coming back as well.

    I'm not defending all of Moyes decisions cause many of them make no sense to me, but reality is, the squad is at best, 7th, and thats a stretch...Newcastle, Brighton, Fulham, Spurs and Forest arguably have better squads but between shit owners, shit managers, injuries and overall just bad performances we're ahead of them.
  • MW1 · SUNWHU-0.99Not really. We had a blinder of a start to the season and had a decent Europa campaign, but it was a very ugly second half of the season in the league. It was very bad football to watch and we suffered a lot of heavy defeats. I felt it was right to move on from Moyes because it had gotten stagnant, we just managed to hire two of the worst possible options to follow up on Moyes.

    But even then I do feel Moyes was a victim of scattergun scouting, how we invested that Rice money was tragic
  • MW21 · EVEWOL-0.99Some people will blame decisions, blame the ref. I blame David Moyes. It's no use blaming the ref. This was entirely on us. The team selection was cowardly and abysmal, performances non-existent, the substitutions 25 minutes too late, and an utter lack of competence from players and management alike.

    In the space of 10 days, our European chances have died. Burnley was a disappointment. Brentford was a disaster. This was a new low, in a season where we've been battered repeatedly at home. Tonight was the worst.

    It'll be a relief once we get the cup game done to go down to one match a week, because this fucking team will only be able to ruin one day a week rather than two, as they have done lately.

Nuno WHU

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  • MW14 · ARSBRE+1.00Rice is our midfield No.1 imo. First name on the team sheet for me. Plays the most important role and as strong as we are in depth, norgaard isn't an equal replacement.

    God forbid but if Rice was to get injured then the comfort I have is that everything I've watched Merino drop back into midfield this season to partner Zubi either to allow Rice to go forward or tracking back or squad rotation.. Merino has been outstanding when dropping back. As long as we have a striker fit and we can play Odegaard or Eze in Cam role, even Gyokeres up front, Havertz behind, Odegaard and Zub in mid.

    Sooo many options and that was a key factor in the recruitment process and plan wasn't just the right players and the right quality in the right positions.. versatility, players that can play in multiple positions was also crucial.

    From the moment I watched Josh Kroenke's long interview a year into Mikel Arteta's appointment i bought into the vision and have fully trusted the process since.

    I've heard the same comment made repeatedly by many Arsenal players this season and I think its this that is the difference between having quality and being successful.. its the atmosphere at the club.

    The c...
  • MW4 · MCIMUN+1.00I agree. Obviously anyone can see Shaw and Ugarte are not good enough, and Dorgu while he does offer some good attacking performances is not ready to start every week. But Bruno, and the effect of building around him when he just doesn't fit the system, is a glaring problem. In my ideal world, the club would go to 4-3-3, sign Baleba or Wharton or similar, and fix basically all of our major personnel problems (minus full backs). Bruno, Baleba, and Case or Mainoo in the middle could be fantastic.


    A back 3 at this level requires incredibly talented and well drilled center backs. The wing backs in this system have to be fast, high endurance, good crossers, and physical. The midfield pivot obviously have to be strong and press resistant, and both competent defenders. The only players that honestly don't have insanely high required quality are the 10s. And the thing is, 10 is one of the easier positions to sign quality players. CBs good enough for this system are attainable, but not cheap (Yoro fits this, MDL possibly, but we would need another). Wingback is extremely difficult, because most clubs don't even play with them, and the best options are generally playing in back 4 at elite ...
  • MW3 · NFOWHU+0.99This was a really infuriating match to watch. I can't fault Wood/Ndoye, both did the best they could to work. But with Aina, the defense at the end, and ESPECIALLY the midfield, mainly MGW and Sangare, we had but an idea of what we actually needed.


    I could excuse a draw, maybe even a 1-0 loss. BUT 3-0 WHEN WE WERE 0-0 AT 80'??? That's entirely on the mentality of the players and their ability to remain composed. To say they need to learn is an understatement, they need to PROVE they know how to manage in this team, they NEED to prove they can stay calm and fight under pressure. This, especially after an 80' which favored us heavily at times, there is no excuse to saying we couldn't have done it. One chance and it was probably ours.


    I also think the influx of substitutions cost us. You cant sub off 3 players and suddenly expect magic. That's been a Nuno problem since last season, you NEED to control and integrate substitutions, or be prepared to do such fast. I called from the start we needed control, we needed a midfield. The McAtee sub was a great idea, but honestly we should've went to a 1-5-4 if that were the case, with Luiz/Hutchinson as well.


    Not enough. From anyon...
  • MW6 · EVEWHU+0.99Good draw all things considered, feels more like a win. Had everything I could’ve realistically asked for, coming back from behind, getting the first goal at Everton’s new stadium, good appearances from fringe players.

    Glad Potts finally saw substantial game time, this is exactly why I’ve been batting for him and why people should question decisions like not playing the youth, it was a constant excuse under Moyes and just now Potter that because they saw them training these youth players were never ready. That isn’t how you develop your academy players, they need games to prove themselves, substantial minutes to show their talents and let them make mistakes so they can learn.

    Magassa was good! I saw a lot of promise in his play, his press-resistance at times was really nice. Gotta work on his timing for tackles but that’s the game.

    Glad Guilherme got some minutes too, really interested in seeing how he develops his game. I can see he has good vision in him alongside a very decent physical build for his age (don’t forget he’s only 19 lads, younger than Orford!). I’m hoping he continues to be interchanged with Summerville going forward, until hopefully December when we can get som...
  • MW24 · TOTMCI+0.99But they also played many games where they dominated the possession controlling the game in general and not just relying on counterattacking. Last season when Brentford played team on the newly promoted or lower teams they always played on the front foot, I know because I watched them a lot last year because I got their players on my FPL team. They scored tons of goals and also conceded a lot, a definition of playing on the front foot.

    You’re so fixated on Frank being this low block and sit back and hoof ball manager like he’s some Dyche or Nuno of the world lol. It’s definitely not all-out attack like Ange (and I mean what managers out there are like that nowadays anyway) but looking at his history of how he managed the team with players like Wissa, Mbeumo who likes to cut back and shoot (so it doesn’t mean that he doesn’t play Tel because he likes to shoot), and Damsgaard who likes to pass through ball to Wissa (so it doesn’t mean that he doesn’t want to play through the middle), I have to disagree with you on your assessment on Frank’s football philosophy even if so far the results haven’t been great.
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  • MW8 · WHUBRE-1.00One of the worst performance I've ever seen. We lost 2-0 but it could have been 4 or 5.

    The positives :

    Areola did what he could.

    Summerville tried

    Mavropanos too.

    Summerville was our best player even with cramps. Madness.

    The rest was total shit.

    Kilman and Todibo are bad. Not sure if it's the pairing but both aren't good enough. People have been saying Todibo was good for a year when he didn't have 5 good games.

    Scarles was lost. He is young and out of position. Maybe don't play a teenager out of position. But still, he didn't have one good game since Europe. KWP wasn't much better.

    Their subs? Attrocious. Hammer of the Year AWB brought nothing and Diouf couldn't defend for shit. And could our fullbacks do the throw ins where they are supposed to be? Especially when we are losing?

    Soucek started okay but was gone after. Bled for the team again. Still better than Fernandes. Total passenger.

    Paqueta as usual. He has had his good game when Brazil, he will be shit for two months. So overrated.

    Bowen was bad. It happens too often now. We are dependent of him and he is the only game changer.

    Marshall was lost too. I'm sad for Wilson. But hey, Nuno is making his choices...
  • MW14 · NEWTOT-0.99I sent this in my group chat towards the end of the game and figured I might as well share it here.

    our club really has made so many bad decisions at every turn

    - not backing poch when we were on the verge of greatness (poch can be blamed here too)
    - sacking poch (great vibes) because a toxic mourinho was available
    - sacking mourinho before the final (i still supported sacking jose but so dumb)
    - hiring nuno and then sacking him before giving him a chance (just terrible business)
    - hiring toxic conte and then sacking him when he inevitably turned like he always does
    - hiring these win-now managers but then not backing them in the transfer market and trying to build youth
    - buying youth and then not giving them a chance
    - building a new stadium and pricing out the most loyal fans
    - WE JUST SCORED but im gonna keep ranting
    - winning our first trophy in decades and then sacking him when vibes were at an all time high
    - HOW THE FUCK CAN THEY REVIEW THIS FOR A PENALTY THIS HAPPENS EVERY FUCKING CORNER HOLY SHIT I HATE THIS SPORT SO MUCH NOW

    im probably wrong, but to me a football club CANNOT be run like a business, it is a culture, it is emotional, it is a combination of every part o...
  • MW30 · WHUMCI-0.99FUCK NUNO STALIN, FUCK PEP, FUCK MICHAEL OLIVER, FUCK HALLAND, FUCK FODEN, FUCK DOKU, FUCK NEGRIRA, FUCK LAPORTA, FUCK PEREZ, FUCK WALKER PETERS
  • MW26 · WHUMUN-0.99I hate playing against Nuno teams. I hope we never face his sides ever again. Bald cunt. Terrorism football final boss.

    So many poor performances across the pitch today. All it took for them to score against us was a moment of pathetic defending and we struggled to do anything against them. Yoro was really good after coming on, saved our ass every single time towards the end.

    Dalot simply cannot be at the club after this season. When he’s bad, he’s BAD. And he’s a special kind of bad whenever we play at the London Stadium. Maguire did his hamstring cleaning up after him because this bag of rocks was too busy lifting his arm up asking for a throw in rather than playing to the whistle. Amad was very very poor too, killed too many attacks and chances.

    This also begs the question, why didn’t we bring on Sesko sooner? We were crossing into nothing all game as it is.
  • MW20 · WOLWHU-0.98Anyone blaming Nuno is just shooting from the hip, like they have most likely done for the past however many years. Who better to blame than the manager, that's just how the modern game has gone. But what is constantly forgotten, time and time again; this is not Nuno's squad. This squad is made up of 3 managers, 3 playing styles and 3 mindsets.

    I'm not sure what everyone wants from Nuno, when we knew before he came in that he was inheriting a massive pile of shit and had his back against the wall from day one. He has absolutely managed to change the mentality of the squad since being here, and that's obvious, but there are still overpaid wimps in the camp who are bound to bring the tone down.

    Protests have happened for a reason, and that's because the club is rotten from the inside, the environment is toxic, our own fans rip shreds into our players week in, week out; be it online or at a game. The whole feeling around the club right now is just horrendous, but stop using the same mentality as the owners, and using the manager as the scapegoat.

Unai Emery AVL

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  • MW15 · AVLARS+1.00Why on earth Arsenal and PSG didn't support this man I don't know, I know Man United is a tough place to be manager and it's a graveyard for players and talents but if we are looking for someone with experience at the top level of European competition, top level of Premier League (Arsenal) , someone brave enough to come back after Arsenal and prove the point to the critics , someone who is consistent in the PL , someone who have good eye for players , great in European competitions and finally with experience in 4 different languages, then he is the guy to go for , maybe he can even work with deadwood like Sesko , Zirkze and I would say Hojlund would be great under him but unfortunately he's no longer in the club , all United players are lack of respect to the club , lack of courage, lack of self belief, lack of hunger , lack of confidence and they need someone who's tacticly sound , knows the league we'll and knows other teams as well so he can organise the team the right way now the same way every week so everyone know exactly how to play against United team , and of course he would have better coaches, when I see that overweight...no scratch that obese man as one if the coaches ...
  • MW28 · WOLAVL+0.99Okay I've got my amateur tactician hat on I'll give it a shot!

    Emery likes to defend in a 442 shape and, generally speaking, our best performances come when we have two wide players, a back 3 and a box midfield supporting a lone striker in possession.

    Generally, we've achieved that transformation by having the RB tuck in and form a 3 when the RW has been in good enough form to hold width, or by having a more defensive minded RW (i.e. McGinn) who drops into the right bottom corner of the box midfield, Kanara drops RCB and Cash bombs on.

    This shape in possession is still the best option we have with currently available players, we just have to achieve it differently.

    My suggestion would be to line up (and, to give us extra defensive solidity out of possession do it here too) in a 4141 instead of a 442. Bogarde is the lone 1, then the 4 from right to left reads Sancho, Onana, Luiz, Rogers.

    In possession, what could happen is that Bogarde drops back to form a back 3, which in turn allows Pau to move on a wider angle as a LCB giving him more space for his diagonals, and Konsa moves RCB to use the half space where his occasional driving runs are valuable. Bogarde gets to be nothing ...
  • MW15 · AVLARS+0.99Arsenal had a full week to prepare for this game and they played so average. ever since playing Chelsea that they should have won with Chelsea having a man down but got lucky with a draw. then there next game when they scored the first goal against Brentford it was amazing team goal at 11 minutes into the game you could say it was like Wenger style football and expected them to play like that for the full 90mins, But they just seemed to switch off not taking there chances when they could and should have scored easy tap in goals but got lucky goal to win at the end of the game with saka in the 90mins. fair enough tho Arsenal have a few injured main starting 11 players and you can expect a abit of a drop in the teams performance.
    Also couldnt believe Martin Odegaard got the man of the match played the full 90mins had 3 shots 1 on target that looked like it was hitting the cross bar anyway, his passing was poor, his tackling and efforts to win the ball back was poor, he made 1 good creative pass that led to a off side, his interception was poor, his creative style of football that everyone talks about wasn't there today in my opinion Nwaneri would have been my starting man for today ...
  • MW24 · MUNFUL+0.99taking any team with Onana as the keeper to a final is wild
    You mean like ten hag did ??? and winning the final against City and not losing against a the worse Spurs team in PL history
    in the worse Europa League format ????
    wow amorin must be amazing LOL

    but sure lets give Maresca credit for he conference league that greek teams are winning LOL
    must be more impressive than the FA cup

    Carrick also inherited Ole team and beat Emery and Tuchel
    and he is doing the same with this team pretty sure amorin didn't manage the Ole team before Carrick takes over

    Amorin fans should stop giving credit for results of other's manager

    Both carrick and amorin played arseanal Man City and Fullham WITH the same team THIS SEASON
    Carrick won all of them amorin lost 2 of them a drew one

    As for the ETHs Frankenstein's monster of a squad
    go check the line up who won today 90% of the squad are the same team
    and ten hag won trophies with them meanwhile amorin couldn't more than once back to back games

    this amorin obsession weird
  • MW15 · LEELIV+0.99Are you serious? A 51% win rate makes him better than 4 of our last 8 managers. It makes him better than most managers in the league. For example, Oliver glasner has a 47% win rate with palace and a 48% career average; Thomas Frank had a 41% win rate with Brentford and a 44% win rate with Bronby; Unai Emery had a 51% win rate with Villareal which got him the Villa job and he has a 55% win rate there.


    In fact, it would be quicker to name the premier league managers who have a higher win %:


    Mikel Arteta, Unai Emery, Enzo Maresca, and Pep Guardiola.


    If we use Slot's overall win % of 62% then only Guardiola is higher. If we use Klopp's win % of 60% then Maresca and Guardiola are higher.


    If we compare Slot and Klopp's win % using Slot's last 12 months (51%) vs Klopp's overall (60%) then there a 9% difference or 4.5 wins over 50 matches. If we compare this period for Slot vs Klopp's 22-23 season where we finished 5th their win % is the same (50%).
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  • MW28 · WOLAVL-0.98But I am not wrong though. We have got top 6 because he been reliant upon predominantly a core of players he didn't sign. But Emery's squad building has been poor that's why we still don't have a proper RW and relying on Bailey a player we deemed surplus at the start of the season. It is why we have no proper LW and we relying on Buendia a player we deemed surplus 12 months ago. It's why the majority of his signings have barely lasted 12 months let alone 24 months.

    It was wonder goals not adaptability which got us those points from losing positions. It wasn't no master stroke tactical change it was literal wonder goals like the main difference between this game and the last one with Wolves is no left foot screamer from Kamara into the top corner from nowhere. Emery is not taking credit for screamers.

    What I mean is I have consistently said the football has been poor for last two seasons and all the stats back it but because we paper it over with set piece goals and screamers it means Emery is world class when our attacking stats are terrible. Isn't just me thinking it there is a reason why the fanbase is half asleep every home game its the football.
  • MW24 · AVLBRE-0.98I'm frustrated at the game, but feels harsh to just blame Emery. We had two players forced to start who haven't even been with the team a week, because we had no other choice due to injuries. Our bench was *Bailey and Elliot* coming on... to the fear of absolutely no one. Also, arguably a dubious VAR goal-check - I personally think they had no right to say with certainty the ball was out from either angle.
  • MW29 · AVLCHE-0.98Saw the lineup, expected the same old dogshit, hoped I was wrong, was pleasantly surprised to feel like a clown 5 minutes in, then I got the good old Villa gutpunch.

    I can barely bother being mad at the same old players now. I hope Emery is ashamed, but I'm starting to feel that the man is beyond shame and will send out Bailey and Watkins again at the weekend, and if he does, I don't think I'll even entertain the idea of wasting 2 hours of my life on this bollocks.

    I've been far less angry about teams and managers who did much worse. It's the hope that kills you, well, that and the arrogance and refusal to learn from mistakes. Hope you shook his hand instead of being a petulant dickhead again.

    And I don't want to hear about McGinn, Youri and Kamara. They improve this team, 100%, but let's not pretend the manager is making the most of what he's got, the last few days have been absolutely abysmal, and an awful lot of it is on him.

    Piss poor. 0/10.
  • MW29 · AVLCHE-0.98GOOD, this team needs to be humbled. not the fans but these players. They think they too good, you can see in the way they play just piss poor. Trying too many useless set pieces and thinking theyre slick (Buendia) and it's cost us.

    Emery too, ffs man make the bloody changes. the likes of buendia, watkins need to be on the bench and barkley must start. Next week is another loss so thats our season fucked and we out of top 6. Last 2 games vs liverpool and then city away FFS
  • MW17 · AVLMUN-0.98@Toprakoz7yea but that’s stupid villa aren’t Crystal Palace or Newcastle. We reached the quarter finals narrowly lost to psg last season and we lost out on 4th due to a dubious decision when we played united and villa were awful that day. So to to say emery who has won the europa league more than any other manager can’t balance both competitions is a really bad take. Mate don’t bother trying to justify what Goldbridge said. Everyone with any brain cells would say that’s just a bad take on this occasion from Goldbridge. For him to sit there and think United can climb above villa is ABSOLUTELY DELUSIONAL. it’s as bad as when the Pratt Rory Jennings said haaland would be a flop

Daniel Farke LEE

Leeds — 3,973 posts · avg VADER +0.109 · net +14.1
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  • MW13 · MCILEE+1.00Pretty conflicted. Farke comes out of this a net winner despite starting the game poorly. The general feeling is more positive than pre-match, so naturally the board will consider that. The back 5 is great and I’m sure that’ll give him some rope but if we’re being honest, why didn’t we start using a back 5 earlier to help Bijol (who’s clearly one of our better players) integrate, and just generally us it to provide a better setup against good sides. Even just at the start of today it could have helped, although totally different game state and we don’t capitalise on momentum/narrative if that’s the case.

    I’m still in the sack boot - I also have reservations that we’ll see that back 5 again unless these same conditions repeat - 2 goals down, playing a stupidly good opponent, nothing to lose, job potentially on the line etc. but it definitely gives him more rope with the higher ups despite not improving our position.

    Also HOW. MUCH. BETTER. DO. WE. LOOK. WHEN. WE. PLAY. DIRECT?!?!?

    EDIT because I forgot to mention it - that back 5 was also only really tactically picking the best profiles for the best positions - there weren’t many interesting tactical things going on, there wasn’...
  • MW25 · LEENFO+1.00He's better at advancing the ball than Ampadu. And probably better than Longstaff as well.

    Stach can advance the ball with passes, etc., but slower to pivot and react defensively than Gruev.

    I think to get to a top 6 level, people might be surprised that the player positions that need upgrading, are probably Amps, Center backs, and Left fullback, and wingers.

    Gruev isn't a problem with that. Even if the team were a lot higher paid, more quality, Gruev's game can still fit in. So can Tanaka's, and Brendens. I think James might be sold on in Summer. And Willie,....for improved wingers. And Gudmundsson could improve,.....but I don't know if his defense can get that much better? Will he ever be a top 6 quality player?

    Justin, Bogle, Brenden, DCL, even Okafor (scored goals for Milan no issue)......aren't the issue with kicking on to another level. In this league, it's about your back line, fullbacks' ability to defend, your depth of quality on the wings, and if you have a great defensive midfield holder. Ampadu is a little shaky on that, if you want to be top 6 consistently. But for a Leeds that stays 8-17, he's fine for that.

    That said.....I love all the lads. T...
  • MW17 · LEECRY+1.00Excellent performance tonight. Leeds were well on top for most of the game and Palace were kept very quiet until the last 10 minutes. Palace are having a good season but we completely outplayed them tonight.

    High energy and the formation continues to look like it gives us a good balance. Bogle and Gudmundson got up and down well. Rodon is starting to get forward a little more now that Bijol and Struijk are settling together.

    Ampadu long throws worked well tonight and we had some chances from corners. Most of the best chances came from set pieces.

    Perri seems to be settling in now and his distribution looks better.

    Very happy and 6 points clear of the relegation places.

    Farke is doing a good job with getting the players to work hard and play as a team in a new formation. He deserves credit for a fantastic run of performances and results.
  • MW1 · LEEEVE+0.99Massive credit to the whole team and to Daniel Farke. A great win for the confidence of everyone, but the way he set us up today was fantastic! Strong and effective pressing but not exhausting ourselves. Physical in midfield and in the duels, creating SO many chances. We just need attacking bodies and full back cover and we are looking really strong. Everton are a lot better than people are giving credit for and have some serious talent in their squad with a great manager. We did really well tonight, and while the penalty was dubious, we fully deserved the win.
  • MW4 · FULLEE+0.99If I may.....(1st ever post on this sub)?

    I've been watching Leeds a great deal since Bielsa took the club back into the Prem. I watched Jesse Marsh's Leeds and was impressed at that time with the matches at Chelsea, Liverpool, and just generally how aggressive he had the side play. Marsch's issue was (no striker), coupled with a style too aggressive for a team with (no striker), and at the end Bamford just plain quit.

    I see eerily similar issues with this team (NO STRIKER).

    DCL doesn't look like scoring a goal. And he also doesn't look too bothered to "make something happen" on his own. Today, Leeds played extremely well in the first half, completely dominating a very balanced and well coached Fulham. In 2 seasons, I could count on one hand the times I've seen any club do that to Fulham at home! So Leeds were not bad as a team. Everyone here seems to think Leeds "couldn't touch them" but I would ask those......"What positions did Fulham get in to score over that period, comparatively"? Answer. None. Leeds were in much more favorable areas at the least, and imho....DCL is waiting for a cross to "tap in", and it's going to be very hard if that continues to be the case...
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  • MW4 · FULLEE-1.00Everton. Spirited win was 25 mins first half, everton lacking key players, from 25 mins on nothing then lucky penalty (might be correct but rarely given).

    Arsenal. Showed we don't know set-pieces tactically. Absolutely shocking! Expected to lose to arse but these goals were to easy. All of them. Why did we buy 'all the big lads' then when Farke has no clue on defensive set-pieces? And one-on-one defensively? We were so poor.

    Newcastle. Turmoil with Isak/Wissa and they just took a point away from home with a lot of players missing. Fine point but we were on the ropes there again second half.

    Fulham. OK, going for a point is not wrong here, but there really isn't anyhting going forward. Nothing for four games. No attacking combinations, no pace, no switch of play. No new tactical ideas. Injury time own goal is harsh, but again we got pushed back / pushed low second half, probably we did not deserve the point we were so close to getting we allowed too much space, too many half chances as we got tired. We need to get more threat going forward in order to ensure the opposition is not trying push us back witouth having to consider a threat on a transition if they loose the ball, but w...
  • MW11 · NFOLEE-0.99How have we learned NOTHING from two years ago? The start of the season was just false hope because I had plenty of people saying we were playing well. The salient facts are these: no we haven’t. We’ve lost SIX out of ELEVEN games. That’s more games lost than won AND drawn COMBINED. Our recruitment has clearly been poor as well. Okafor looks like the only consistently good addition (a few others have shown promise at time but have dropped off recently: Stach, Longstaff, Gudmundsson). Once again we’re getting the basics wrong: stupid mistakes in the defence, somehow falling all over the place and NO ATTACKING THREAT.

    I’ve shit on the players enough so there’s no point in singling anyone out for how bad they’ve been, but my patience has ran out with Farke. He’s doing the same old shit that got us relegated in the first place; making subs far too late and barely changing the starting 11, and it’s costing us far too much.

    We look like a team that’s already been relegated. I’m not saying Forest or West Ham will suddenly turn into Bayern Munich and Real Madrid, but they’re picking up form where we’re not. Too many goals conceded and just a lack of positive mentality. We got promoted b...
  • MW2 · ARSLEE-0.99Very, very worrying. Obviously Arsenal are top class, but we looked absolutely bottom of the barrel, there is not a single positive to take from that. Utterly toothless, statuesque in defence, slow, devoid of ideas. Worried by how bad Stach looked. As bad as anything we saw in our last PL stint. Anyone with a bit of sense was worried by the line-up, we knew Gruev wouldn't be good enough, we knew Piroe would be ineffectual, we know Struijk is a useless lump against good players. Farke didn't. Worrying.
  • MW11 · NFOLEE-0.99I’d urge people to be wary about pushing the club to sack Farke in a rush. This lot have shown every sign of being shit at selecting coaches and acting without a proper plan.

    I agree that Farke probably is showing he doesn’t have the what it takes to turn this around. But there are worse coaches out there than Farke.

    We have a completely incompetent footballing operation in the boardroom. Parage isn’t a football guy. We kicked out Steinsson, Miles and Hammond who for whatever you think of them are experienced in recruitment decisions. Underwood is a fucking academy manager and Evans in a 49er stooge who likes spreadsheets

    The shortlist to replace Farke last time was calamitously shit and they’ve totally fucked the Rangers appointment too

    I worry they’ll sack Farke without a decent replacement ready to go. Doing that could be awful during this run. If we take 4-5 pumpings from now til December they’ll be the season over. We won’t recover from that

    If a good option is there and available - make the change. If they’re not, don’t do something stupid
  • MW21 · NEWLEE-0.98Okay, apologies in advance for them not being screenshots. Apparently they block screenshots where I am, so I had to take photos of the screen to do it. I tried to find a few comparable examples but I probably didn't pick the best ones (I just flicked through)

    So first, here is Leeds positioning at 0-0. The attackers are up ahead of the Newcastle CDM and ready to press. The midfield have the responsibility of pressing the balls that come through.
    [https://imgur.com/QBwmccl](https://imgur.com/QBwmccl)


    Here is 0-1. The attacking line is much deeper and the centre midfielders don't have a place to press with forward momentum.
    [https://imgur.com/6IuvRmX](https://imgur.com/6IuvRmX)

    At 1-1 we were still sitting back a little but eventually we snap out of it and our more attacking position comes back.

    Second half, we started more like the nil all position for around 5 minutes but started dropping again.

    Here's a screenshot showing a moment where Newcastle has got past our midfield line. I've circled the 3 CBs because when the score is equal one of these 3 would step up and apply pressure.
    [https://imgur.com/gTPK5OG](https://imgur.com/gTPK5OG)

    Here is a similar scenario to ...

Oliver Glasner CRY

Crystal Palace — 1,663 posts · avg VADER +0.113 · net +16.1
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  • MW14 · ARSBRE+1.00Rice is our midfield No.1 imo. First name on the team sheet for me. Plays the most important role and as strong as we are in depth, norgaard isn't an equal replacement.

    God forbid but if Rice was to get injured then the comfort I have is that everything I've watched Merino drop back into midfield this season to partner Zubi either to allow Rice to go forward or tracking back or squad rotation.. Merino has been outstanding when dropping back. As long as we have a striker fit and we can play Odegaard or Eze in Cam role, even Gyokeres up front, Havertz behind, Odegaard and Zub in mid.

    Sooo many options and that was a key factor in the recruitment process and plan wasn't just the right players and the right quality in the right positions.. versatility, players that can play in multiple positions was also crucial.

    From the moment I watched Josh Kroenke's long interview a year into Mikel Arteta's appointment i bought into the vision and have fully trusted the process since.

    I've heard the same comment made repeatedly by many Arsenal players this season and I think its this that is the difference between having quality and being successful.. its the atmosphere at the club.

    The c...
  • MW1 · CHECRY+1.00Thoughts overall-mostly paying attention to Chelsea. Didn't have thoughts on everyone as I'm too pea-brained to keep track of everyone, especially CBs that look similar and are facing away from the camera so I can't see their numbers.

    Please lmk what you think. I'm very stupid so I probably got things wrong. Mainly just thinking about player performances rather than tactics/shape for now because...that's what I wanted to focus on.

    ---------

    **Chelsea**

    Sanchez - Should've saved the FK, got lucky it was disallowed. Should've been a penalty against him punching Guehi. Poor performance completely rescued by bad refereeing.

    James - Largely bested by Eze but made some good defensive contributions against other players. Middling performance.

    Acheampong - Started off nervy, misplacing a few passes, but grew into the game and performed well for most of the match.

    Chalobah - Performed well for the most part, some good runs and passes. IIRC he might've been out of position a couple times in the 1st half but nothing much.

    Cucurella - Played well in his unique 'roaming wing back' role. Caused a lot of trouble throughout, also some excellent and dangerous passes that ought to have been ...
  • MW21 · BURMUN+1.00Best Manager (Flexibility & Strong Tactical of using players to their best potential)= Hire "Julian Nagelsmann"/ "Alex Ferguson"
    1) "Julian Nagelsmann" Win Rate : 71.4% (60 wins, 14 draws, 10 losses in 84 games) at Bayern Munich
    2) "Alex Ferguson" Win Rate : 65.2% (528 wins, 168 draws, 114 losses in 810 games) at Manchester United 's Premier League games
    3) "Solskjær" Win Rate : 54.2% (91 wins, 37 draws, 40 losses in 168 games) at Manchester United
    4) "Oliver Glasner" Win Rate : 49.4% (40 wins, 23 draws, 18 losses in 81 games) at Crystal Palace
    5) "Michael Carrick" Win Rate : 46.3% (63 wins, 24 draws, 49 losses in 136 games) at Middlesbrough
    6) "Ruben Amorim" Win Rate : 38.1% (24 wins, 18 draws, 21 losses in 63 games) at Manchester United - keep using Flawed Defence (Back 3)
    *For Hiring Manager --> Please refer to "Winning Rate" & with "Flexibility" + "Strong Tactical" experience.
  • MW15 · LEELIV+0.99Are you serious? A 51% win rate makes him better than 4 of our last 8 managers. It makes him better than most managers in the league. For example, Oliver glasner has a 47% win rate with palace and a 48% career average; Thomas Frank had a 41% win rate with Brentford and a 44% win rate with Bronby; Unai Emery had a 51% win rate with Villareal which got him the Villa job and he has a 55% win rate there.


    In fact, it would be quicker to name the premier league managers who have a higher win %:


    Mikel Arteta, Unai Emery, Enzo Maresca, and Pep Guardiola.


    If we use Slot's overall win % of 62% then only Guardiola is higher. If we use Klopp's win % of 60% then Maresca and Guardiola are higher.


    If we compare Slot and Klopp's win % using Slot's last 12 months (51%) vs Klopp's overall (60%) then there a 9% difference or 4.5 wins over 50 matches. If we compare this period for Slot vs Klopp's 22-23 season where we finished 5th their win % is the same (50%).
  • MW27 · CRYWOL+0.99But we won’t win games if we play like this that’s the issue, we got lucky against one of, if not the worst premier league side of the last decade. Winning is important but would you rather win a game now and lose 5 later? Or lose a game now and win 5 later? Obviously it’s football and you can’t predict the outcome, we could even end up winning our next 5 games with Glasner for all I know but I just think short term pain is worth long term happiness, either way it’s a gamble and I’m happy we won but I get his point I really do, I’m 50/50
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  • MW22 · SUNCRY-0.97But who has even had the chance to show the potential to play regularly? Glasner doesn't even give players enough opportunity to even make the case, and in instances where he does give them a shot (I'm thinking specifically of Esse), he ends up getting so frustrated with them for making mistakes (which are part of the learning process and to be expected) that he banishes them forever.

    You have to expect that new, untested players will fail, but you have to put them in and let them fail in order for them to grow. Glasner, IMO, is so terrified of losing (or players making mistakes) that he stubbornly creates a situation where better players will fail (because they can't play at the required level for as long as necessary) and where "lesser" players never get up to speed.
  • MW20 · LEEMUN-0.97Carragher always praise Enzo Maresca heavily who had a 2 billion dollars squad and had the same 30 points as Amorim lmao

    He said amorim won't be a united manager in Dec 2025.
    It's 2026 January and he is still there, united is 6th (equal point as 5th) with half of the squad missing.
    Instead of saying where united in the league this season they now say last 12 months. What does the previous season have to do with the present. Many coaches were sacked for doing horrible at present despite doing good the previous season.
    Nobody then say, well look collectively from this season and last season how many points he won and don't sack him for doing horrible right now. It's the current season that matters.
    For example ole and Mourinho finished second previous season and then were doing horrible and were sacked. Under amorim united was 15th last season and now 6th, that means currently good. Why would they sack him for previous season??😅

    Also carragher said Glasner is a better coach than Amorim. Amorim went to palace and beaten Glasner who is 14th in the league.
    Carragher is saying many managers would earn more points than amorim. Well why they don't have more points than amorim at their...
  • MW6 · CRYLIV-0.96When it's this bad, it's clear Glasner has outplayed Slot first half.

    Sometimes you can blame a single player's mistake, but when half the starting 11 can't even string a pass together, it's systematic. Palace are making it extremely difficult to find space and time. When you find very little room for error, you tend to make more mistakes.

    This is not a player issue, this is simply Glasner once again being an incredible manager. I think we'll see a very different game next half however, as Slot makes some adjustments.

    If I had to guess, Macca is subbed off for Gakpo to create a threat on the left. Frimpong on for Bradley for the same reason. No other changes.
  • MW27 · CRYWOL-0.96I’m an American so I was also watching the Gold medal hockey game against Canada. When Richards went down I was worried, when he stayed down I was scared. I switched the channel and took off my Richards Jersey, hanging it up on the closet door. I was hoping he wouldn’t be too badly hurt, and I started counting the months until the WC. The hockey game was also a tense stalemate (two really good teams instead of two really poor teams) so I switched back to Palace and I said wait who’s that back at Center Back? Cardines? No, that’s Richards! WTF is he still doing on the field, what is wrong with Glasner doesn’t he know how to sub? I suppose not because just a few minutes later Guessand scores, on the pitch for a matter of minutes and he shows why he should be for every minute left of the season. UTFP
  • MW4 · MCIMUN-0.95wanted to reply back to your other message about other managers

    howe and Emery won't leave their clubs.

    nagelsman loves the national job and wants a summer window at the least but even he's a risk when Bayern munich failed under him cause of the egos on the team, he won't fair better in utd most likely.

    glasner, is also risk and not surefire.

    my point is this, unless all you outters will actually bet your lives on the next manager, as a collective, you're all turn on that manager too and the cycle continues.

    it's easy to want to destroy stuff and I'm not saying amorim is perfect. he has to ask himself some questions and make changes once ineos calls him in tomorrow about WTF happened.

Andoni Iraola BOU

Bournemouth — 947 posts · avg VADER +0.192 · net +29.3
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  • MW32 · ARSBOU+1.00Everyone will be talking rightly about all the bottling memes, so I’ll take a different tack. Well played to Bournemouth and Iraola for the tactical masterclass. They made Rice and particularly Zubimendi look very weak in midfield and dictated the pace of play. What an incredible job they’ve done.

    The result is obviously disappointing but recoverable. Losing at home should be a kick in the ass because as fans we deserve better than this turgid football. The problem is it feels like we have no answers in terms of effective wingers, whether that is Saka, Madueke, Martinelli or Trossard.

    The narrowing of the gap at the top is I think something that should determine whether we deserve to be league champions or not because it forces us to get a result at the Etihad. Our only convincing performance against the top 5 this season has been against Villa at home 4-1. We should have beaten Liverpool both games, City at home, and Man U at home, but we didn’t because we tried to not lose. We need to go to the Etihad to win - and if we can’t do that then we have to rely on luck and our rivals doing us favors, but it remains in our hands.

    Positives today:

    - Eze hasn’t lost a step. He looked ...
  • MW8 · TOTAVL+0.99I said I didn't want Franks and was stunned when we appointed him. I wanted either the Crystal Place manager or Bournemouth manager, yet our football expert Levy went for Franks. I said I will give it 8-10 games and see what he does. Well his had a good set of fixtures to be fair, nothing difficult only City who we always beat. He hasn't played Palace, Newcastle, Chelsea, Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal etc, difficult games. Then we get some of our fans getting giddy over a few wins against West Ham, Leeds, Burnley and City lol. Well we can only win one game at home and only played Burnley, Wolves, Bournemouth and Villa. Couldn't beat Bodo away like we did last season, were lucky to get away with anything from the Villareal game. How people are telling me they can see so much improvement is laughable. We look clueless playing out from the back, spend more time playing in our own half than in the oppositions. We go forward and 9 times out of ten go back, I can already see this manager and this team will go nowhere. You could clearly see he needed to make subs early in the second half, yet once again waits until we go behind. I will wait for the rest to catch up in a few months time whe...
  • MW4 · MCIMUN+0.98You may. He right if he wax 45 to 47 and had done his proper apprenticeship at a team like wolves or West Ham, learned the PL, learned how to adapt and be flexible by playing various formations like 433, 4141, 3421 and 352.

    He knows one way which has only worked in the Portuguese league where a lot of teams also play 3 at the back, if he was 6 or 7 years older and he won a Europa League with mid table PL team or a team in the continent like Oliver Glasner who can and will adapt but also plays a 3421 system and plays wining football with a wage budget of maybe 1/4th of United’s. There are multiple outstanding candidates in the EPL that are all vastly superior to Amorim!

    Glasner, Silva, and Iraola would all improve United in 3 PL matches?

    It’s time to stop taking the Hopium pill, Ruben is not the man, he’s got the job maybe a decade too early!
  • MW29 · BOUBRE+0.98Yes, that was frustrating. And there were many balls that should’ve gone in considering these are premier league players. But to be honest, and this may be an unpopular opinion for today, I was thrilled to see how many actual chances we had and how many INTENTIONAL chances we had with some amazing passes and pieces and focused attack minded play. Doesn’t seem like that’s been well expressed this year so it was refreshing to see today

    Another unpopular opinion, I thought Iraola should’ve subbed Kroupi for scott, not Christie. Scott definitely one of our top men of the whole season, but I think he was showing wear and exhaustion today and I thought Christie had better vision.
  • MW25 · NEWBRE+0.98My top picks have always been Tuchel, Poch and Silva.

    Tuchel has always been my top pick. I’ve argued a lot on here. I think he’s elite but crying for a club around him that doesn’t have PSG/Bayern level demands of silverware or Chelsea level of batshit more interest in player trading than achievement.

    Silva I think could quietly be a good project manager for us. Fulham look very well coached in both directions on a shoestring budget but he’s not depending on some football hacking system like Frank at Brentford.

    I think we’re still at that point we need a coach first manager. Those guys strike me as that. But also not entirely system dependent but just play solid football.

    Think Enrique is more suited to getting elite from elite talent. Tactically excellent.

    Alonso. I won’t comment. Because I think he’s out of our league/ destined for Liverpool or Man U or even City if Pep goes. In that vein. Not sure why I even bothered to comment on Enrique.

    Glasner. I can’t quite put my finger on why I don’t like him for us. Even though I was full of praises before Palace.

    Maresca’s football bores me to death but I think he’s a good manager.

    Di Zerbi (politics aside) I really like...
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  • MW13 · TOTFUL-0.97This will not be popular but I am completely behind Frank. I don’t think this shite is on him — it is a result of a decade of poor recruitment, years of frustration for fans and just a boiling point of anger that is feeding in to the poor performances during the home games.

    Who do we think is going to be the right guy for this? Iraola? People have been going craaazy for him and he's lost from 2-0 up today against Sunderland
  • MW4 · MCIMUN-0.96the managers had 2 weeks to prepare and it looks like only 1 did lol. amorim is so far out of his depth; this team is not good at anything in particular, just mediocre or bad at many things and it stems from the manager not platforming his players properly (our personnel could improve too, particularly in midfield, but this team is nowhere near as bad as they look). also idk how shaw starts games for us anymore, this man should've been at a retirement club 2 years ago.


    once again, amorim's rigidness and refusal to adapt is costing this club. he will not be successful here unless he changes (he won't).


    ineos had 2 chances to sign frank or iraola and they went with a manager whose system has a clear blueprint to get beaten with, you can't make this shit up
  • MW3 · TOTBOU-0.91No control at all. Low energy. No good positions. Passes go to the other team. Bournemouth choking us out. Spot on game plan from Iraola. Really really bad half. Gutting if we have another this bad.
  • MW12 · LIVNFO-0.91Get Iraola in, this arrogant bald fuck is out of his depth; all his dossiers of tactics and plans for players.. fucking BR2.0 minus the 400m in signings. Disgusted with how he's got them playing.

    Since May it's been this shit, maybe that's when he decided to impose his ideas from Klopp's tactics, and it was masked under players checked out having won the league.
  • MW16 · SUNNEW-0.91Your second to last paragraph really hits on the head for me.

    “Elite” coaches want elite players. I think getting someone like Conte or (for the sake of this argument) Pep wouldn’t work for us. You’d have a manager not used to the technical limitations of the players trying to force tactics designs for better players. That’s one of the reasons why I’ve always held firm on my stance on Howe.

    If, speaking strictly hypothetically as I’m not calling for him to go, we needed to replace, that would be a big consideration for me. Can they improve players but also have they worked with limited players. Thats why De Zerbi has always been one of my top picks. He did that at Brighton and got them zipping it about much like Silva at Fulham but his style is designed to make it very simple for his teams to transition from defence to attack and create space to attack.

    I’ve no interest in “paradigm shifting” tacticians like Amorim that won’t adapt. And I see Iraola’s name dropped all the time. I think that would be a mistake. Basically just takes us back to 2022 rather than forward as a team. I think he’d struggle similarly to Howe when he has to do it twice a week.

    And on Iwobi. Late bloo...

Roberto De Zerbi TOT

Tottenham — 836 posts · avg VADER +0.079 · net +12.6
zerbi 644 · de zerbi 617 · rdz 178 · roberto de zerbi 18 · dezerbi 18
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  • MW8 · BHANEW+1.00​@SAY1MY1NAME1 You're welcome of course, but unfortunately I really don't see much chance of us improving, let alone consistently playing exciting football, as long as Hurzeler's still here. I've been Hurzeler out for ages now precisely because he doesn't seem to have any overall idea/vision/style as to how he wants us to play. The one thing we *have* been consistent at, for this season so far, is playing like we indeed have no idea what we're supposed to be doing beyond 'generic 4-2-3-1 attacking football'! Under RDZ, we had so many brilliant patterns of play and an incredible distinctive style that always shone through, no matter what players we had or were injured, no matter who we were playing against, and ultimately no matter whether we won or not. Nowadays, it's the exact opposite - every performance is so disjointed, we can barely even hold onto the ball a lot of the time (compare our average possession stats to under De Zerbi and you'll see we now look like a low-block relegation team!), we've struggled to put together even a 15 or 20 minute spell where we look like there's a strategy/direction. Instead, for almost all of our minutes on the pitch, the only strategy seems to...
  • MW32 · SUNTOT+1.00Agree, we weren't amazing but an improvement. Richie had 2 very good chances in the first half that he passed back to their keeper with. 7 on target overall is an improvement. And while we didn't look 100% solid their goal was a fluke. Not to mention the things you mention. Also it was great that RDZ actually plays players in their actual fucking best positions,

    Yes, coulda, shoulda, woulda but we did look better , even if the bar before was very low.

    I like how rather than ask non-wingers to be wingers we play 2 wide forwards, with the fullbacks providing the width. Also that as he chose not to start Xavi he went for a 433 and 2 8s rather than put an 8 in the 10. Id have rather have seen Xavi start but it made sense how he setup, something we haven't been able to say for a long time.

    Feel a lot here are basing their opinions off the result only.

    Problem we have is 6 games left, still I can see if we improve further we can win our home games and beat Wolves away. I'm positive as RDZ will be playing those games to win not to "not lose" like Frank.
  • MW11 · BRENEW+0.99I think Eddie’s in a mess. He did well with tactical tweaks last season. I think he no longer knows his best 11.

    I think he’s also torn between evolution and getting us back to the tried and tested formula of 22-24.

    I’m not Eddie out. He retains my support for now. But I have some harsh words for him for sure. Which if you know me is saying something given how unwavering my support for Eddie has been in the past.

    But I think we could benefit from a manager like De Zerbi whose football is about creating space for yourself on the transition rather than hoping. It’s probably the best way to get the best out of a group of players that thrive in transitions but are unable to create them.
  • MW33 · TOTBHA+0.98I know this is devastating, but we fans have to stay positive and stop saying "we're going down." We are not getting relegated. We are going to win the next games and will stay in the premier league. We have to think and speak positively about ourselves until the season is over. It hurts the heart to be so close to a win then end up drawing (it felt like we lost lol) like we did in this game, but we have to 100% support the players and also up ourselves until the season is over. Pray that we stay up, and pray that West Ham and Nott. Forest lose their next games.

    Like De Zerbi said, no negativity! He's the perfect manager for us now. Let's not mope about. COYS.
  • MW25 · NEWBRE+0.98My top picks have always been Tuchel, Poch and Silva.

    Tuchel has always been my top pick. I’ve argued a lot on here. I think he’s elite but crying for a club around him that doesn’t have PSG/Bayern level demands of silverware or Chelsea level of batshit more interest in player trading than achievement.

    Silva I think could quietly be a good project manager for us. Fulham look very well coached in both directions on a shoestring budget but he’s not depending on some football hacking system like Frank at Brentford.

    I think we’re still at that point we need a coach first manager. Those guys strike me as that. But also not entirely system dependent but just play solid football.

    Think Enrique is more suited to getting elite from elite talent. Tactically excellent.

    Alonso. I won’t comment. Because I think he’s out of our league/ destined for Liverpool or Man U or even City if Pep goes. In that vein. Not sure why I even bothered to comment on Enrique.

    Glasner. I can’t quite put my finger on why I don’t like him for us. Even though I was full of praises before Palace.

    Maresca’s football bores me to death but I think he’s a good manager.

    Di Zerbi (politics aside) I really like...
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  • MW31 · EVECHE-0.97Again and again
    Disappointing results
    What you're doing is making [it/Rosenior] more damaged and destroyed

    Rosenior belongs in a schoolyard, not the Stamford Bridge dugout. Chelsea is no longer a serious competitor for major trophies.
    And Rosenior is more suitable to be a physical education teacher than managing a big club like Chelsea; they have lost their identity as title challengers in all competitions.

    We no longer believe in long-term investment in young players in this era BlueCo and Clearlake capital.
    Stop destroying our Chelsea.!!!
    Stop killing our chelsea.!!!
    BlueCo Out.!!!
    Clearlake capital Out.!!!
    Rosenior get out...!!!

    The new manager's best option:
    -Zinédine Zidane
    -Cesc Fàbregas
    -Filipe Luís
    -Roberto De Zerbi
  • MW31 · EVECHE-0.97Again and again
    Disappointing results
    What you're doing is making [it/Rosenior] more damaged and destroyed

    Rosenior belongs in a schoolyard, not the Stamford Bridge dugout. Chelsea is no longer a serious competitor for major trophies.
    And Rosenior is more suitable to be a physical education teacher than managing a big club like Chelsea; they have lost their identity as title challengers in all competitions.

    We no longer believe in long-term investment in young players in this era BlueCo and Clearlake capital.
    Stop destroying our Chelsea.!!!
    Stop killing our chelsea.!!!
    BlueCo Out.!!!
    Clearlake capital Out.!!!
    Rosenior get out...!!!

    The new manager's best option:
    -Zinédine Zidane
    -Cesc Fàbregas
    -Filipe Luís
    -Roberto De Zerbi

    Sell-Out
    Goalkeeper and defender/backline Sell all second-string players.
  • MW33 · TOTBHA-0.97I honestly feel bad for him. Based on the match thread and some comments in this thread, people are attributing the draw to overcelebrating.

    If I'm in this position as a fan, I am absolutely fuming about conceding the goal, but I'm not pointing the blame at Xavi. He just scored a goal. The potential ramifications of what it could mean. He's likely seen or heard some of the criticisms that have been thrown his way all year, and the goal scored is an absolute cracker. The emotions are absolutely high. The entire team celebrated.

    To then watch Danso fuck about in his own box, resulting in the 2nd goal, is justifiable head loss. Spurs are one of the worst defending teams in the league. Only 3 teams have conceded more. One is directly above them, and the other two are directly below them. The players know that, and De Zerbi should know that, and Danso does the one thing a player in that position shouldn't be doing. Like you said. It's absolutely suicidal to do that in the position Spurs were in.
  • MW24 · TOTMCI-0.96Alright let’s stop being stupid. Sack this Danish twat now. Don’t even let him do the second half.

    Players look dejected. Game plan…… non existent. Fans look fucked off and rightly so. I normally drink one beer in the half because something may happen. I’m nearly on my third!

    I really don’t give a fuck who we get in (not De Zerbi) just someone who doesn’t chew gum like they’ve just done 6 grams of cocaine and throws a water bottle like a little bitch
  • MW32 · SUNTOT-0.96The main reason why Frank was so frustrated with the players here is because he insisted on them constantly winning the second balls and rebounds. Which requires relentless workrate. Which these fuckers don't have.

    RDZ's football too won't fly here because these frauds are stupid af for his style

    So, they are lazy and a bit stupid. While also being shite technically and mentally

Fabian Hürzeler BHA

Brighton — 735 posts · avg VADER +0.067 · net +7.5
hurzeler 718 · fabian hurzeler 26 · fabian hürzeler 17
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  • MW8 · BHANEW+1.00​@SAY1MY1NAME1 You're welcome of course, but unfortunately I really don't see much chance of us improving, let alone consistently playing exciting football, as long as Hurzeler's still here. I've been Hurzeler out for ages now precisely because he doesn't seem to have any overall idea/vision/style as to how he wants us to play. The one thing we *have* been consistent at, for this season so far, is playing like we indeed have no idea what we're supposed to be doing beyond 'generic 4-2-3-1 attacking football'! Under RDZ, we had so many brilliant patterns of play and an incredible distinctive style that always shone through, no matter what players we had or were injured, no matter who we were playing against, and ultimately no matter whether we won or not. Nowadays, it's the exact opposite - every performance is so disjointed, we can barely even hold onto the ball a lot of the time (compare our average possession stats to under De Zerbi and you'll see we now look like a low-block relegation team!), we've struggled to put together even a 15 or 20 minute spell where we look like there's a strategy/direction. Instead, for almost all of our minutes on the pitch, the only strategy seems to...
  • MW2 · EVEBHA+1.00Look man I'm just sick of people hating hurzeler, I think he's in an impossible position. Every half decent player we have gets nabbed.

    I agree he is young, but i could argue that those subs were made at a perfect time. If he made them any earlier, I believe that we would have gone more than 1-0 down. thanks to the slow play and experience on the pitch we were able to hold city off. Don't get me wrong the first 60 weren't the greatest, but dude if he had started that squad there's no way they would have lasted the full 90 at top level, 3 of the 4 subs were younger and they normally start to fade by the 60 min mark. So bringing 4 subs on for the last 30 so they could play at 100% and score twice (1 being top draw) is pure chess. Especially bringing James milliner who although a great leader and took a solid pen is at this point is a few years off getting his state pension!

    So nah bro I think just because we don't always play the most attractive football doesn't mean it should mask when a good manager is doing well. And it's so early in the season too. If in like 10 games time we are well out of the top 10, then I'll hold my hands up and say I was wrong. But for now I'm content ...
  • MW32 · BURBHA+0.98A bit fortunate with two tight offsides going our way, but we were the better team (certainly in the first half). Great to see us finally take 6 points off a relegated side!

    I get that playing Gomez on the right has been working for us, but surely there is a way to find more than 10 minutes for Mitoma moving forward? He looked good over the international break and helped set up Wieffer's second today. But for some reason Hurzeler is doggedly committed to never playing Mitoma & Minteh at the same time.
  • MW19 · WHUBHA+0.98I don’t know how long he renewed for or what clauses might be involved, but Kjetil Knutsen is someone we’ve been linked to before who I think would be a good choice. Has an established style of play while being able to adapt, used to working with a smaller budget and still performing, and has shown consistency in his work.

    Depending on how he does the rest of this season Liam Rosenior could be interesting, but a risk as he’s not that experienced just like Hurzeler, but he did a great job with a young team last season, but this has been a wobbly one for him. There’s a connection to us there which could work well too.

    Either way, even if Hurzeler doesn’t recover I’d rather wait for the end of the season where better names can be scouted than sacking him midseason.
  • MW34 · BHACHE+0.97The commentators are making this all about Chelsea being terrible, and yeah they were, maybe the worst side to come to the Amex all season. But I seriously think it's more so that we just styled on them

    Maybe my favorite ever performance under Hurzeler. I know we won at home against these by the same scoreline last season, but that 24-25 game was a bit more about individual brilliance. This whole 90 minutes just felt cohesive from the entire team. Snapping up every pass and loose ball, clean tackles, suffocating press. Being smart and controlled with possession. The counterattacks were almost entirely dealt with without any kind of panic or recklessness. That actually felt like the ideal version of Hurzeler's style of play
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  • MW4 · BOUBHA-0.99Ref bad bournemouth bad timewasting bad welbeck bad dunk bad milner bad verbruggen bad tzimas bad mitoma bad hurzeler bad bloom bad brighton bad england bad everybody bad
  • MW29 · BHAARS-0.98our play has been bad

    but teams have been insufferable in how they play and complain about us. Hurzeler has taken it to another level of hypocrisy and delusion. fucker has had a player refuse to move to delay the restart 3 times and is still complaining every 10 seconds.

    Rice and Zubimendi are dead. he needs to make a sub because there is no way they can finish this for 3 points. one needs subbed now. we can't win a single second ball or get a foot on the ball at all.
  • MW11 · CRYBHA-0.96​​​@SpicybangraloverThe problem with that is decision making by officials and VAR is not good enough to get 100% right, and some players will get suspended and some not. I'm a Brighton supporter, and I really don't like seeing any of our players cheating like that. So I personally would like to see the Manager tell them to stop or be dropped. Hurzeler would not not like to concede a penalty like that so shouldn't want to win one. But in football like me you call it cheating which is right, some supporters and Managers call gamesmanship.
  • MW29 · BHAARS-0.96Kavanagh having a shit game as per usual. Missing about 3 or 4 Brighton yellows.

    First Mosquera one was soft but probably deserves to be on a yellow based on that 2nd foul he made. Lucky Kavanagh wasn't feeling trigger happy at that moment.

    Also... Fuck Hurzeler the whiney bitch
  • MW9 · MUNBHA-0.96I agree and that criticism is entirely fair. Hurzeler deserves his share of that but I also think that we cant expect to not have some growing pains when we lose 1-2 key players every summer (Pedro & Pervis most recently). And we cant expect every young signing to come in and light it up immediately. 


    Add Baleba's poor run of form and dunk/welbeck not being super consistent due to age and its a very tricky balance. 

Scott Parker BUR

Burnley — 285 posts · avg VADER +0.092 · net +17.5
scott parker 275 · scotty parker 10
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  • MW23 · BURTOT+0.991) Thought Odobert was excellent today, easily MOTM for me and feels like he's been getting better each match -- hoping he continues to improve
    2) Tel must have slept with Mrs. Frank or something, thought Spence was good today but don't really understand why he started out of position when Tel is fit
    3) The passing continues to be dreadful, particularly from Xavi -- don't understand how they continue to miss on what seem like very simple short passes and how they haven't been working on this in training
    4) Even with the two goals conceded, Dubravka with one of the better goalkeeping performances I've seen in recent memory (Fotmob has him at 1.57 goals prevented) -- hard not to compare against Vicario and I'd happily swap the two -- if I have to watch Vicario slice one more ball so high up in the air it comes down with snow but only 10 yards in front of where he kicked it from I might lose it
    5) Romero surely can't have injured himself kicking the board after his goal -- but since this is Tottenham, we'll get the post announcing he's undergone a successful surgery on Monday
    6) Solanke's hold-up play is just so much better than Richarlison's or Kolo Muani and thought he had...
  • MW31 · TOTNFO+0.98Leeds here. If you actually do go down, just prepare yourself probably for the most fun season of your life. The champo is a brilliant division, with brilliant fans all over and much better away days than the PL, and the Championship reddit sub is MUCH better than the PLs.

    On top of that, you get 8 more games, win almost every week by cricket scores and are allowed to be pissed off at a draw.

    Even Scott Parker's Burnley were winning games 4-0 in the run in last season.
  • MW18 · LIVWOL+0.96​@littleneymar3172wirtz first full season in a "top 5 league" 18 goals 19 assists and player of the season, second full season in a "top 5 league" 16 goals 16 assists and footballer of the year . . Ronaldos first full season at a "top 5 league" 6 goals 8 assists, Henry won player of the season and scott Parker won young player of the season, ronaldos second season in a "top 5 league" 9 goals 9 assists, frank lampard won player of the season, and Wayne Rooney won young player of the season . . How about that?
  • MW7 · LEETOT+0.96Disappointing but not heartbreaking. Gabby couldn't handle Kudus and Tel working the channel inside him, and two unfortunate deflections led to goals - think Darlow set himself too early for the second, but ultimately that's just nitpicking.

    Big difference in Spurs having the likes of Kudus and Tel to create something out of little, and we've only really got Okafor anything close to that. Harrison and Nmecha are fine as subs where we want to protect something, but they're really not gamechangers - we really need Gnonto back on the bench pronto, and DJ fit soon.

    Bogle looked gassed second half, which perhaps isn't surprising as he's up and back all the time. Hopefully the international break helps him. DCL continues to be good at all the stuff except finishing - he'll get (fairly) criticised for missing chances, but he does a lot of the other stuff really well.

    No need for heads to drop after today. Let's get back to it, smash Scott 'Scotty Parker' Parker's Burnley after the international break and keep the faith. MOT.

    (PS - Thomas Bramall interferes with dogs)
  • MW1 · TOTBUR+0.93They kept 29 clean sheets in the championship, I know it's a step down but thats a remarkable record. Shithouse defending teams is what Super Scotty Parker does.
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  • MW6 · BREMUN-0.92Exactly. If he can not see what the issue is and what he needs to do then, to quote former Leicester manager Nigel Pearson, he is an ostrich.

    Brentford have played with a back 3 (to memory) in every game so far this season but changed to a back 4 today in order to overload the midfield and have the better of us. Fulham did it and told everybody that was their game plan. Scott Parker (managing Burnley) and the Grimsby manager both spoke about exploiting our midfield. It's the worst kept secret in world football and our manager is the only one not adapting to our biggest weakness.
  • MW29 · EVEBUR-0.91@BurnleyOfficial WE’VE GOT USELESS SCOTTY PARKER, HE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED, 5 AT THE BACK, FUCK ALL IN ATTACK, WE’RE GOING OUT THE PREMIER LEAGUE
    #PARKEROUT
    #twitterclarets https://t.co/OoxUo1PpBN
  • MW28 · BURBRE-0.90Scott Parker has gotta take the cake as the worst fashionista on the league right. The ugly ass coat with the dress shirt and tie
  • MW19 · BURNEW-0.86Not gonna lie, that’s kind of disgusting from Scott Parker. Broja has clearly fucked his ankle there but Parker dragged him up and pushed him back onto the pitch. That shit isn’t on.
  • MW4 · BURLIV-0.84Get fucked Scott Parker you absolute bus wanker.

Marco Alexandre Saraiva Da Silva FUL

Fulham — 273 posts · avg VADER +0.128 · net +18.7
marco silva 268 · da silva 5
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  • MW21 · FULCHE+0.99Good to see Fulham beat their great west London rivals - it only ever happens 'once in a blue moon' ! Bit of a scrappy one this - but two great goals for Fulham. Harry Wilson has been excellent all season - and it's vital Fulham hang on to him. Likewise Marco Silva - but I really think he will be Manchester United bound in the summer. Pastures new - and a big
    challenge for someone as ambitious as Mr. Silva - and whatever way it pans out - it will surely be the ultimate gateway to managing the Portugal national team - unless Ruben Amorim gets there first ! Don't do it, Marco. It's a 'poisoned chalice' - and Sir Jim likes to clear things out pretty quickly.
    The last successful Fulham manager to move on to bigger and better things ? Roy Hodgson - with Liverpool and England. Hmmmm.
  • MW21 · BURMUN+0.99Some great goals in this match - not least the brace from Benjamin Sesko who looks a really potent striker if he maintains form and fitness.
    Looking further into the Premier League crystal ball - it looks like Darren Fletcher will be yet another 'interim' first team Coach - sorry Manager (or is that a Coaching Manager ?) until the season's end, with Champions League qualification a minimum remit. As a Fergie 'old boy' - he may even be offered the job full time a la Ryan Giggs or Ole Gunner Solskaer. More realistically, Manchester United will probably poach Marco Silva from Fulham in the Summer of 2026 as a like-for-like replacement for Ruben Amorim (possibly with Harry Wilson thrown in for good measure - who's been Fulham's best player by far this season). Ruben Amorim - who is by no means a poor Coach - or Manager - whatever the misgivings or vagaries by Sir Jim and others at United at playing a 3-4-3 system - may well end up at Fulham as a replacement. As a Fulham fan myself - I hope that doesn't happen - but United have taken good players from the Whites in the past; notably Paul Parker and Louis Saha.
    Manchester United - a huge, global powerhouse club with massive support - re...
  • MW21 · NEWLEE+0.99Some great goals in this match - not least the brace from Benjamin Sesko who looks a really potent striker if he maintains form and fitness.
    Looking further into the Premier League crystal ball - it looks like Darren Fletcher will be yet another 'interim' first team Coach - sorry Manager (or is that a Coaching Manager ?) until the season's end, with Champions League qualification a minimum remit. As a Fergie 'old boy' - he may even be offered the job full time a la Ryan Giggs or Ole Gunner Solskaer. More realistically, Manchester United will probably poach Marco Silva from Fulham in the Summer of 2026 as a like-for-like replacement for Ruben Amorim (possibly with Harry Wilson thrown in for good measure - who's been Fulham's best player by far this season). Ruben Amorim - who is by no means a poor Coach - or Manager - whatever the misgivings or vagaries by Sir Jim and others at United at playing a 3-4-3 system - may well end up at Fulham as a replacement. As a Fulham fan myself - I hope that doesn't happen - but United have taken good players from the Whites in the past; notably Paul Parker and Louis Saha.
    Manchester United - a huge, global powerhouse club with massive support - re...
  • MW19 · CRYFUL+0.99You're.absolitely correct, m'friend. But I think Shahid Khan is keeping the purse-strings pretty tight after a 'splurge' in the Summer on Emile Smith-Rowe and Kevin. I think it IS crucial that Fulham tighten up on the left side of midfield and defence; the Palace goal came from that side - and if I remember correctly, in the League Cup match versus Bristol City, the Bristol lad had a shot on the turn which hit the far post and re-bounded. Yet - let's give credit to Marco Silva, please. He knows his stuff - and how to rotate the squad to the best advantage. It's also crucial that Harry Wilson stays with the club in January or the Summer windows. My guess is that the club will offer him improved terms to stave off interest from the European or Premier League big boys. He has been Fulham's best player this season.
  • MW2 · FULMUN+0.98like for like our players are much better than most teams I really wish we can just get a smart manager that don't play anything fancy just a solid tried and tested formation like 433 that most players are familiar with and adapt slightly according to the opponents strategy, like what marco silva did to us. Thomas Frank would have fit the bill nicely I thought, just utilise our superior players to overpower the opponents in the traditional way, doesn't need anything fancy.
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  • MW3 · CHEFUL-0.88Commentary glazing Marco Silva so much. I don’t feel any empathy for him or Fulham. They did a blatant stamp on Chalobah’s foot, and did a blatantly obvious handball to block a cross. Fuck their victim mentality after they jeered Delap’s injury.
  • MW20 · TOTSUN-0.87I mean I didn't have any better ideas but I wasn't impressed by any of the names that were floated during the summer. Marco Silva? Iraola? I can't remember the rest but it wasn't great.
  • MW2 · FULMUN-0.87U see Marco silva adapting his tactics as the game goes on but Amorim aww hell nah he's one rigid mfer.
  • MW3 · CHEFUL-0.86Fulham being rode by corrupt var officials last two games.

    Against man utd, united's penalty was not a penalty and utd's goal should have been a free to Fulham for a blatant push.

    Todays decision to disallow Fulham's goal was a disgrace.

    Thats three massive decisions all going for the big boys and Marco Silva has a right to be very angry.
  • MW20 · LEEMUN-0.78Tuchel doesn't want us.

    Football has left Poch

    Ancelotti I'd love to see, but he historically is more suited to already settled squads

    Nagelsmann? Would he take the job? I thought he wanted to focus on Germany NT and he recently signed a new contract

    Glasner has the same issues as Amorim. Iraola is a Fraud. Marco Silva couldn't deal with the pressure of mighty Everton

    But yeah... I don't think Amorim will manage us next season

Keith Andrews BRE

Brentford — 249 posts · avg VADER +0.149 · net +24.1
keith andrews 249
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  • MW9 · CHESUN+0.99I'm an Arsenal & Galatasaray fan with sympathies for Leeds United but I must admit I have fallen in love with this fantastic Brentford team. What a true fighting and spirited team this is. Keith Andrews is also doing a masterful splendid job. The referee was not very good and was a bit pro-Liverpool IMO. Best matches I have seen this year is with Brentford, especially vs Manu. Respect and all good wishes for Brentford (I lived in London for several years) and their fantastic supporters from Türkiye & Ecuador! ❤🤍
  • MW18 · BREBOU+0.99You can't say Andrews is doing a good job and then say the head coach role is essentially meaningless. I know how the club works. I'm not an idiot, and I'm fed up of people being talked down to for wanting to achieve something.

    Sorry, I just cannot buy the "we are not a wealthy club" bollocks when we have some of the most FFP headroom in the league, have JUST received new investment and received over £100m in sales for two players alone, and are supposed to be good at finding undervalued players. We are more than capable of replacing them.

    How are you supposed to kick on when you lose players? Ask Palace who sold their best player and starting centre back and won the FA Cup. Ask Brighton who lost Cucurella, Bissouma and Trossard and qualified for Europe. I don't know where this idea comes from that you can't sell players and succeed. We currently are in the European race, I just don't have any confidence that we'll stay there given how inconsistent we've been. "But we're bound to be inconsistent with an inexperienced head coach" ...

    This year is a gigantic opportunity, there's a newly promoted club with the chance to go 5th if they win today, Palace just behind them having sold ...
  • MW21 · BRESUN+0.98@sandydennylives1392 Lmao. You seemed to come out of nowhere. I had a feeling you would stay up when you guys first got promoted because I was impressed by the football you played in the Championship. I think it was Arsenal at home your first game in the Prem and I backed you to beat them and I’m sure you did. One thing is for sure, I did not expect you to achieve what has been achieved and it’s great to see. As a Wolves fan it’s also nice to see Keith Andrews doing well.
  • MW26 · BREARS+0.97Disappointing but Brentford were fantastic; hard to overstate how good Keith Andrews is doing in coaching their side. Both teams had great chances to see how the game with a win. A point and move on.
  • MW24 · AVLBRE+0.96ONCE AGAIN OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS , HAVE GOT IT RIGHT !
    With , Keith Andrews having to take over , from Thomas , who was brilliant for us ! and the team have great spirit and brotherhood , which Keith has continued , with his own , game play !
    VERY IMPRESSIVE !
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  • MW31 · LEEBRE-0.98Tactically outsmarted by that bum fucking Keith Andrews.

    Worst I've seen us play this season and we just had no idea. Normally come away from something like that and think well we competed and had the chances but we were set up in a way that meant we looked absolutely clueless.

    Players didn't help mind but difficult when you're in a system that just had no out or avenues whatsoever, or where you're being told to play safe.

    Ampadu was absolutely awful - gone back to his start of season self where he is painfully slow on the ball and kills everything.

    Darlow was wank.

    Aaronson was poor, looked like the old version again.

    Bogle couldn't lift a cross off the floor if he tried today.

    Really missed Gudmundsson today.
  • MW25 · LIVMCI-0.946 wins since September in that time this is what has happened:

    Worst run of form since 1953
    Citeh do the double over us for the first time since 1937 in the league

    Lost 6 in a row in the PL
    Lost 9 of 11 games
    Lost to maresca (sacked)
    Lost to Amorim (sacked)
    Lost to Glasner (leaving at end of season
    Lost to Dyche at Anfield 3-0
    Lost to Keith Andrews (set piece coach)
    Lost to Peter Bosz (PSV manager)
    Drew to Leeds at home
    Drew to Sunderland at home
    Drew to Leeds away (2-0 up)

    So what is it going to take to sack this manager?
  • MW6 · BREMUN-0.92This first half is exhibit number 975098432 of Dalot being an utterly shocking footballer and this clown is one of our "senior figures".

    Bruno being a mopey sod again.

    Cunha really is fucking selfish.

    Shaw and Maguire have been poor too.

    Creating fuck all.

    Losing to a Keith Andrews team.

    State of this club.
  • MW7 · BREMCI-0.91Between today and the Stick To Football a few weeks ago, there is a weird dislike Gary Neville has for Keith Andrews. The week before brentford beat man united, he was trying to bait Keane into going in on Andrews, but Roy sorta just left it.


    His commentary in the first half was a bit much, as if he was almost offended. He said at one point it was the "most dominating performance" hes seen in a long time. Brentford weren't great first half, but it just seemed very very targeted.

    Neville is a really strange guy
  • MW31 · LEEBRE-0.90And let’s not forget Keith Andrews — the same guy who once went on Sky talking about the ‘spirit and integrity of the game,’ spouting nonsense about Bielsa and spygate — telling his goalkeeper to fake an injury to kill momentum when his team was under pressure.

    Anyway, the human hypocrisy...

Rob Edwards WOL

Wolves — 209 posts · avg VADER -0.276 · net -45.9
rob edwards 209
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  • MW28 · WOLAVL+0.97Great win only the 2md at home all season, nevertheless a great performance from a local derby. Which is always a great atmosphere home 🏡 or away with local bragging rights at stake. A great win for the manager Rob Edwards too and all the coaching staff gives the whole team , the club and the local community a lift too. Something to smile about which is very rare these days.
  • MW28 · WOLAVL+0.97Rob Edwards is doing a great job, tbh. He inherited too few points to keep them up, but within 3-4 games, had them structured & competing again, and the last few games it’s clear they will be favourites to come straight back up. Even if I was a Middlesbrough fan, I’d have to accept that Edwards followed his heart and loyalty to his boyhood/home club, and being relegated with them meant more to him than promotion with Middlesbrough. Good on him…
  • MW19 · MUNWOL+0.95Well done Wolves! Regardless of whether we stay up or not, Rob Edwards and the team need time to straighten things out mentally and tactically. The supporters need to encourage the team so they regain their confidence. A lot of damage was done under Vitor and Rob has to iron things out, which will be a big, big job. We need to get behind Rob Edwards our manager!
  • MW28 · WOLAVL+0.93@Wolves Congratulations Pack & Wolves Nation.

    Please send our Congratulations and kudos to Rob Edwards. We, the observers, see the good work he is doing despite the difficult circumstances.
  • MW28 · WOLAVL+0.92Rob Edwards definitely has transformed Wolves. They won't stay up but I think they can be proud of the 2nd half of the season. I would love that miracle for them at the expense of an old foe
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  • MW29 · WOLLIV-0.96Got crucified talking about it in September but the performances under Slot are trash. Players aren't blameless. No tactics, no plan of attack, no defence, midfield unbalanced, poor decision making. It's crazy to see how Rob Edwards can galvanize a team and you see the belief in the system and you look at all the talent in our squad and they play like they're tired and bored. Mockery of the Liverpool badge.
  • MW27 · CRYWOL-0.93Robbed by Rob Edwards really. He should be screaming that Armstrong is taking the pen, no subs until late when we’re knackered, and coward shit going for the draw.
  • MW33 · LEEWOL-0.93@Wolves Disgusting. Concede 7 to teams in the bottom with us. Without scoring. Of which we never looked like scoring either. Please fuck off Rob Edwards, out of his depth..absolutely fucking awful
  • MW16 · ARSWOL-0.93It would be my club man the beats the derby record 😐🔫

    In all seriousness though what is Rob Edwards meant to do or say to this squad to turn it around its impossible we just scored three goals and still lost and our chairman says that relgation isnt considered an issue within the club

    Theres no fight no teeth nothing, like what on earth man?!
  • MW14 · WOLNFO-0.92Look i have nothing but good will for you guys, but what the fuck was Rob Edwards actually thinking by coming to wolves? He had to have been in a MUCH more advantageous position at Boro, no?

Vítor Pereira NFO

Nottingham Forest — 177 posts · avg VADER +0.035 · net +10.2
pereira 177 · vitor pereira 37 · vítor pereira 6
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  • MW20 · BOUARS+0.99Honestly? Let's run the list.

    GK - Hugo Souza
    CB - Leo Ortiz/Leo Pereira, the best pairing in south america in the last 10 years. Ortiz is better IMHO, but both would deliver what, let's say, Murilo or the average Gabriel game (not his top games).
    ST - Kaio Jorge, Vitor Roque, Rayan. Kaio Jorge has developed a lot and is very young, maybe wait a little more for him to have a second amazing scoring season, and he'd be a great player. Vitor Roque doesn't fit the PL, he's a little like Gabriel Jesus, but without the vision. He'd bounce around like Jesus, scoring, fighting like hell, scrapping, but he's not a natural goalscorer. I mean, even though he scored a lot this year, but he makes bad decisions all the time. Maybe in a year or two

    Rayan is AMAZING. He's the best young player in the league (as he's actually a teenager, the other ones are in their early 20's. He has carried his team on his back, has a huge frame, strong, tall, can play as a winger or striker, and has that 'something'. He's probably the best pound-for-pound bet in the league, I'd go after him If I was a team like Liverpool or Villa, for sure.

    Midfielders? Meh. I like Breno Bidon, he's technically brilliant, ...
  • MW33 · NFOBUR+0.97Positives from today:

    We won at home

    We have scored a decent amount of goals this game, not just score one and hold on

    We played on the front foot to a team relatively well organised and near the foot of the table

    Our ‘team’ captain has scored a hat trick and must have rattled Spurs fans in doing so

    Jesus scored another goal, especially in the league and at home

    Pereira is a tactician and not a one trick pony

    What a performance from Sanghare and Anderson, bless Anderson for playing after what he’s been through

    And so, so much more. What an inspired performance after the poor first half

    Is this the point we can say ‘we can finally kick on’?

    Another big game on Friday, 2 wins in 5 games will give us 42 points which can hopefully keep us up. COYR
  • MW5 · WOLLEE+0.94I'm basically done with Wolves for a while I think l, can't be wasting my weekends watching this stuff.

    Taking Lopez off for Munetsi is also the final straw for Pereira for me, its literally abysmal stuff.

    We did all that penny pinching in the summer, signing our 2nd and 3rd choice options just to blow a load of cash giving a manager a big payout when we inevitably bin him off.

    If we are going to get relegated so be it, let's go cap in hand to Nuno and do it with a manager we all love and who loves the club
  • MW2 · BOUWOL+0.94As a Wolves fan I agree, the majority of the players aren’t good enough and even Pereira is making me question him now with his subs, tactics etc. He dropped Andre today, one of our best players and played Bellegarde in his position who is absolutely dreadful. This is very concerning that VP can’t see what’s best when the fans can
  • MW10 · FULWOL+0.91Pereira’s lineup today was as if the guy wants to be shot. Hoever is one of the worst players I’ve ever seen play in the Prem and to have both Pitbull and Andre on the bench is just criminal. Not only that, but Tolu and Wolfe who were outstanding against Chelsea get dropped! The bloke is just clueless, can’t cope with Andre and Pitbull actually questioning his tactics and style of play so he drops them. He seems to be terrified of creativity and players with technical ability as well like Lopez and continues to play Strand Larsen who has done jackshit this year whereas Tolu has played about 2 games in full and scored twice. Knock knock, anyone home?! 🤦‍♂️

    And the only thing worse than this, owners who still believe he is the guy for us. When the manager has lost the dressing room which he clearly has, you can’t do anything but sack him. The players blatantly don’t have any faith in him and why would they! Pitbull literally dribbled about 50 yards backwards today as a protest. Everything about Pereira is wrong, tactics, selections, subs, player management is clearly all off. Bloke still thinks he’s in China or Saudi where sticking a big lad on the pitch with an amateur touch (Munet...
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  • MW12 · WOLCRY-0.96Just when I'm relatively positive about this team, they get a shit bounce on a corner--so Wolves-like for an unlucky bounce to happen--and then they turn over the ball needlessly and any and all positivity is gone--very Wolves-like goal, that second one. Just a stupid, stupid mistake/lapse in judgement and the team is completely deflated--even more than they were after the first one.

    Of course Pereira didn't help this team, but, man, this game really proves that not only could Edwards not save this team; NO ONE could save this team. They are historically bad.
  • MW6 · BREMUN-0.93This shiny new toy syndrome is something that has plagued us for years

    Pereira supposedly doing bad? Let's buy Van de Beek for 40 mil that ends up being shit too

    Dan James supposedly doing bad? Let's buy Sancho for 80 mil that ends up being shit too

    Elanga supposedly doing bad? Let's buy Antony for 100 mil that ends up being shit too

    Fred and McTominay supposedly doing bad? Let's buy the uncs Casemiro and Eriksen for 70 mil total that ends up only showing their worth for less than a year because they're already uncs who are near finished

    And so on and so forth

    I'm not saying these players we let go are world beaters (apart from McTominay who already showed he can be one) but their replacements are significantly more expensive and showed the same if not worse performancea than their predecessor, so if we're getting the same level of performance anyways, why don’t we just stop wasting money and just give these academy graduates and existing players another chance?
  • MW31 · TOTNFO-0.90I just saw them cut to vitor pereira and my immediate reaction was “when the hell did Tudor have time to get a hair transplant? That looks crazy”

    I’m so dumb
  • MW9 · WOLBUR-0.883/4 games bottled it in the last minute, we’re protesting Shi but make no mistake Pereira is shocking as are his in game tactics.
  • MW31 · TOTNFO-0.88I hate Vitor Pereira

    Fucker is such a mid manager, but he always pulls some bullshit out of his bag against us

Régis Le Bris SUN

Sunderland — 140 posts · avg VADER +0.133 · net +20.7
le bris 140 · regis le bris 35 · régis le bris 11
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  • MW13 · SUNBOU+0.99My parents met in Sunderland, had me and my sister there, then we moved away to South Wales when we were 11 and 8 respectively, I've been a lifelong Sunderland fan, my sister never paid much attention to football but during the playoffs last year she text me out of the blue saying "didn't think \*we\* would win that one" (emphasis added is mine!), still find it hilarious 'cause she's fully invested now fair play to her.

    Anyway, point of it all is I said to her when we scored the third, I can't remember \*ever\* feeling anything other than complete despair when Sunderland went 1-0 down, never mind 2, but while I still felt pretty grim earlier, I had some hope that we might nick a point or three and by god did the team deliver. She doesn't know how good she's got it getting on board with Le Bris in charge 'cause from top to bottom the team have found a rich vein of something that felt unimaginable for most of my lifetime.

    I know it'll falter and stumble before the end of the season, I'm not letting myself be too daft about it, but I am enjoying it while I can 'cause it's an absolute joy supporting a squad who fight for the badge this hard. I thought "til the end" was a bit of lame ...
  • MW6 · SUNNFO+0.98Ange is wildly out of his depth. I was never a huge fan of his whole 'I'm just me mate' persona when he arrived.

    I think his style will always work for someone like Celtic because they have a talent advantage against pretty much every team they face domestically. But that game today felt like fairly typical Ange ball to me. They had way more chances, way more possession, and yet there were large periods where players looked lost when trying to play through Sunderland.

    What would concern me if I was a fan, is that he had a lot more talent at Spurs and just managed to keep them up. As for Sunderland, they're playing the game rather than letting the game play them. No need to try and be the pretty passing stuff that Le Bris did in parts last year, be effective, be secure, and don't overthink it.
  • MW6 · SUNNFO+0.96⁠​⁠@@IceWallowCome282Ny goodness a helluva surmising on your part to say the least : suspect wishful thinking! The cold facts we can only pick up points against the sides we are playing atm and we are doing that beautifully! Regarding Afcon yes it’s potentially a problem but nobody knows how far the teams are going to progress so it’s an unknown quantity plus we do have depth in our team now! If we carry on like we are there is every chance we could have in the region of 25 points by then which is virtually two thirds of the way to safety. Against the big clubs many sides struggle against them and no doubt we will as well but would point out we have already played 4 teams ( getting eight points in the process) who finished in the top 12 last season. Regarding teams sussing us out that again is conjecture and feel Le Bris have already shown how flexible and astute he is so will cross that Bridge ( if it happens) when we reach it ! Let’s see where we are in a few months time shall we?
  • MW27 · SUNFUL+0.95We created more chances in this game than in most of the others we played. If only we could have taken them. They also never fall to Brobbey. I don't see why we insist on playing with wingers when they don't take the chances we create I wish Le Bris would try a similar system to Leeds with Brobbey and Isidor upfront. Maybe they could bring out the best in eachother.
  • MW20 · TOTSUN+0.93Great tweak from Le Bris in this game. Bringing Ballard on meant we were able to play Le Fee further up the pitch and we were so much better for it. It's where the goal came from.

    Best bit is we're still above the scum.
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  • MW30 · SUNBHA-0.93@SunderlandAFC Lose to Newcastle, finish the season on a low and start next season badly and le Bris will be gone.

    The same old pattern starting to emerge unfortunately.

    Once you lose it it’s very difficult to get it back on track.
  • MW8 · SUNWOL-0.91Regis Le Bris the modern day Peter Reid and look at the sad state of mags and Sunderland haters being desperate it's pathetic. 🔴⚪️
  • MW29 · LEESUN-0.88Farke got this one fucking badly badly wrong

    Le Bris probably couldn't believe his luck when Farke set us up like we were defending a 1-0 lead v Man City

    Sunderland's bread and butter is sitting deep and soaking up pressure and we started with nine defensive players to try pick that lock

    And that's not excusing some dire performances, but when every single player is bad, it's the setup
  • MW30 · SUNBHA-0.87@SunderlandAFC 15 shots and not one goal. Le Bris seems devoid of all ideas now why not go 2 up top? We are losing anyway I just dont understand his thought process. Far too conservative and cowardly. One of the worst goal scoring records in the entire league and he’s done nothing to change it
  • MW30 · SUNBHA-0.87Im sick of Diarra falling to the ground and not getting up. Does it week after week. Cost us fr the goal ,went down as if hed been ht by a heavyweight. Le Bris needs to tell him. Its embarrassing. Im a season ticket holder and im sick of it